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 Apr 05, 2008 @ 03:16:21 | #78 | vekta
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I love American Pit Bulls. I think they are a very pretty animal. And I think that people buy the dog when they are young out of cuteness, not knowing what they are getting themselfs into. From what little I've seen American Pit Bulls are a high engery dog, and they need to be played with all the time. People don't realize that and they take them back to the pound after a coyple days, which is really sad.
Exactly, I remember when ours was small. He got so bored one day that he tore a whole couch, a door, and the floor up. It was pretty impressive to be honest. We were on a second floor that day and he almost tore a hole straight down to the first floor. he did it so quick that we didn't catch him until we found him laying in the rubble and couch stuffing scattered all over the place. 
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| Apr 05, 2008 @ 03:26:26 | #81 | alexkidd
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Join Date: Sep 2006 | h20gerl said:
The majority of current dog breeds have been created by humans for specific reasons these days. pits are not "predisposed" to violence, they are just better built for it. So are Rotties of which I have one, Dobermans, German Shepards, Staffordshire Terriers and the Argentinean Dogo.
Unfortunately right now Pits are the "status" dogs of choice that insecure, ignorant and irresponsible people have chosen to degrade the image of.
As for children around pets.....how many times is a dog supposed to be poked in the eye, pulled on by the ear or otherwise be allowed to be tormented and never have a reaction. The highest per centage of the time a dog is blamed for biting an "innocent" child, there has never been an adult present to monitor the child's treatment of the dog.
i'm afraid they are predisposed to violent behaviour, breeding has alot more to it than just physical build.
they were bred for fighting, thats basic.
not all children that were attacked were poking the dog,
i wouldn't even say that most dogs were.
unless taken care of properly they can be dangerous, alot of people don't take care of them well, and plus in many areas they're still bred for fighting. part of outlawing the dog is to cut down on this kind of crime.
the effectivness of that is another debate.
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| Apr 05, 2008 @ 03:45:59 | #86 | alexkidd
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unless taken care of properly they can be dangerous, alot of people don't take care of them well
Exactly the reason it is the people we need to be addressing.
Familiar with the saying guns don't kill people, people do.
Same idea. Unfortunatley because you are so obviously prejudiced against the breed you don't see the problem as stemming from any other cause than the breed itself.
One of the biggest problems in society right now, no matter what the issue, is that people are no longer expected to be responsible for the situations they create nor are they to have any consequences to their actions. If that was still taking place this is likely a debate we would not be having
ok i think you're getting me a little wrong here,
i said i'm unsure about my feelings on killing these dogs.
i'm simly pointing out the fact that others were ignoring, that this breed of dog was created by people in order to fight.
they're involved on more attacks bacause of this.
thats pretty generally accepted fact.
that doesn't mean everyone is, and the media is wrong in portraying every one as a ticking timebomb.
i think in the converse of this, being a person who owns and must love her pitbulls quite a bit its hard to imagine them attacking a child,i'm sure they're very friendly with you and you family,
but they are capable of that.
not out of malice or evil intent, no more than a cat catching a mouse is driven by anything more than instinct.
in alot of cases people wern't careful enough about guarding their dog because they were such a trusted family pet, i think that if people are responsible enough they should be allowed to keep them,
but i understand the mentality of people who think they shouldn't be around, while they are here there is a danger to children.
and as with alot of issues, if it can avoid the death or maiming of a single child then its worth doing.
i'm just trying to see it from both sides.
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| Apr 05, 2008 @ 04:10:27 | #87 | iwannano
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Join Date: Mar 2008 | If they are treated right, raised with the family and are well fed and cared for they are the most protective and loyal dogs you will find.
Any dog, even the most calm and gental breed of dog will be anti-social and aggressive if tied out on a chain with no positive human interaction , half starved and abused .
It is the owners fault and the owner should be reported by anyone seeing this being done to an animal, report it before the dog gets loose and attacks a child or neighbors dog . Most times when theres a news story on about pit bulls attacking someone or another dog you hear the neighbors saying that there has been reason to be afraid of the dog for quite sometime before the attack accures,It really gets me twisted when I hear how some people treat their animals . After an attack the dog(pit bull) has to be to down because very few people are willing to adopt a dog with a history like that.
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| Apr 05, 2008 @ 04:32:49 | #88 | h20gerl
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Join Date: Mar 2008 | alexkidd said:
ok i think you're getting me a little wrong here,
i said i'm unsure about my feelings on killing these dogs.
i'm simly pointing out the fact that others were ignoring, that this breed of dog was created by people in order to fight.
they're involved on more attacks bacause of this.
thats pretty generally accepted fact.
that doesn't mean everyone is, and the media is wrong in portraying every one as a ticking timebomb.
i think in the converse of this, being a person who owns and must love her pitbulls quite a bit its hard to imagine them attacking a child,i'm sure they're very friendly with you and you family,
but they are capable of that.
not out of malice or evil intent, no more than a cat catching a mouse is driven by anything more than instinct.
in alot of cases people wern't careful enough about guarding their dog because they were such a trusted family pet, i think that if people are responsible enough they should be allowed to keep them,
but i understand the mentality of people who think they shouldn't be around, while they are here there is a danger to children.
and as with alot of issues, if it can avoid the death or maiming of a single child then its worth doing.
i'm just trying to see it from both sides.
Any dog that is raised in a child free household, as mine is, feels uncomfortable around them. I really believe, by studying my dogs reactions to children, that it is the idea of a human the same height as them that initally is freaky. Then naturally, wiht the dog being raised in a quiet non chaotic atmosphere then contributes to being uncomfortable around the constant activity and noise a child produces.
A dog that is raised in that atmosphere finds it to be more "normal".
As I stated previously, I am appalled that on occasion parents have allowed their child to run right up into my dogs face. I naturally intercept the child by any means necessary regardless of the parents reaction. I don't have any friends with kids so my pets really never see children.
Goes directly back to the fact that the average human no longer has common sense nor the ability to analyze the potential of a situation.
So the rest of us that try to act right pay the price and so do out pets. | | | |
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