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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 21:40:55#1
vaboom

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Here in the bay area where I live there is a lot of controversy on whether or not to ban pit bulls, and there are a lot of pit bulls that get put down every day because people can't take care of them, or they have puppies, and can't keep them.

What is your view on this?
Do you think pit bulls should be banned?
Do you think pit bulls are horrible animals?

I think pit bulls are one of the most loyal types of dog around.
I own a pit bull, and have many friends that have them too, and they are wonderful animals. I think the mentality and personality of ANY DOG is directly a reflection of their owner, and if a dog is aggressive, or anti-social, it is the owners fault, and they should be to blame.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:06:04#2
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I too think the mentality and personality of ANY DOG is directly a reflection of their owner, and if a dog is aggressive, or anti-social, it is the owners fault, and they should be to blame.

Once I read this paper that said that some dogs snap due to irregular skull formations- like the head pinches the lobes of the brain related to aggression.

I have a staff. and she is always taken as a Pit so I have an idea of what its like to see fear in someone.

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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:12:37#3
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a dog is basically how you train and teach them,if you show love it comes back,pit bull are o.k i have/had any problems with them.and people that run pit fights are scum,how they can teach dogs to hate like that is beyond me and a pit bull fight is disgusting,very un-humane,the dogs get injued some so bad they have to put to sleep,all for mans fun and money they pay and could win if the dog they bet on wins,i think that you should only have it as a pet and the dog should be checked regulary and if there are signs of pit bulls fighting they should never be allowed to own a animal + they should do jail time the people who does that make me want to vomit,and in america i think the fighting ones get put to sleep cos of the danger to a family if it turned on them


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:20:22#4
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I think certain dogs have a predisposition to violence, and it is no coincidence that certain breeds attack people/children/other animals more than others do.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:27:37#5
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Too inbred and owners tend to buy them for their aggressive behaviour as a
status symbol. One of mans mistakes at breeding. Sure there are some very nice
ones around, but I wouldn't trust them, especially around kids.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:30:03#6
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Too mean to be pets, I don't think we should ban them but they are dangerous (most of them anyway). Our neighbors had one and it was really mean and scary.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:43:24#7
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they are portrayed of being nasty pets,my lurcher could be classed as being nasty cos he licks your face so much it hurts,my toy yorkie could be classed as being a nasty dog cos she nips you out of excitment,,i have known a few pit bulls and they have been o.k


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:54:08#8
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jmo said:
I think certain dogs have a predisposition to violence, and it is no coincidence that certain breeds attack people/children/other animals more than others do.


I believe certain dogs DO have a predisposition to violence, but it doesn't have to do with their BREED. Saying that all pit bulls (or any breed for that matter) have a predisposition to violence is like saying all black people carry guns, or all mexican people are theifs. Just like in human nature, there are people who seem a little bit wrong mentally, but it doesn't have to do with their race, it has to do with how they were raised, where they were brought up, who their friends were, who their parents were, etc. It is the same for dogs.

There is a great quote from a website called www.badrap.org that says "Judge the deed, not the breed." You should check out that website. It smashes a lot of the myths and accusations people throw to the innocent breed of pit bulls.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 22:59:12#9
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spiderswing432 said:
Too mean to be pets, I don't think we should ban them but they are dangerous (most of them anyway). Our neighbors had one and it was really mean and scary.


This is one pit bull that you have come in contact with. Have you ever met any other pit bulls besides this one?

Like I said, I have one of my own, and she is the sweetest dog you have ever met, and she was abused by a previous owner. 99% of the pit bulls I meet are very nice (usually nicer, and more loyal than any other breed of dog I've met). It is the 1% that are abused and mistreated, or the owners don't know how to handle them, that are agressive.

It is unfair to judge the whole breed because of one bad encounter.
I think you should do some research and meet some more pit bulls before you make an assumption like that.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 23:15:34#10
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vaboom said:
This is one pit bull that you have come in contact with. Have you ever met any other pit bulls besides this one?

Like I said, I have one of my own, and she is the sweetest dog you have ever met, and she was abused by a previous owner. 99% of the pit bulls I meet are very nice (usually nicer, and more loyal than any other breed of dog I've met). It is the 1% that are abused and mistreated, or the owners don't know how to handle them, that are agressive.

It is unfair to judge the whole breed because of one bad encounter.
I think you should do some research and meet some more pit bulls before you make an assumption like that.


Um, I've seen lots of pit bulls other than that one, and most of them have been the same.

I think you should get to know me more before you accuse me of something.


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New Post! Mar 20, 2008 @ 23:43:19#11
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spiderswing432 said:
Um, I've seen lots of pit bulls other than that one, and most of them have been the same.

I think you should get to know me more before you accuse me of something.


I think you should get to know pitbulls better before you accuse them of something.


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New Post! Mar 21, 2008 @ 00:01:01#12
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vaboom said:
I believe certain dogs DO have a predisposition to violence, but it doesn't have to do with their BREED. Saying that all pit bulls (or any breed for that matter) have a predisposition to violence is like saying all black people carry guns, or all mexican people are theifs. Just like in human nature, there are people who seem a little bit wrong mentally, but it doesn't have to do with their race, it has to do with how they were raised, where they were brought up, who their friends were, who their parents were, etc. It is the same for dogs.

There is a great quote from a website called www.badrap.org that says "Judge the deed, not the breed." You should check out that website. It smashes a lot of the myths and accusations people throw to the innocent breed of pit bulls.


I don't think thats true. A black person and a white person differs only in physical apearance. Breeds of dogs differ in not only apearance but personallity.

You cannot compare the two.


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New Post! Mar 21, 2008 @ 00:07:51#13
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spiderswing432 said:
Um, I've seen lots of pit bulls other than that one, and most of them have been the same.

I think you should get to know me more before you accuse me of something.


I see that you took the link off that you originally posted.
You originally told me that it "it is pretty much proven that pit bulls are agressive," and you gave me a link that you obviuosly didn't read before hand, because it did not even begin to prove that pit bulls are agressive. Here are a couple of excerpts from the report that "pretty much proves pit bulls are agressive," (because I actually read through the whole thing):

-Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficulties inherent in determining a dog’s breed with certainty, enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises constitutional and practical issues. Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning dangerous dogs.

-even if breed-specific bite rates could be accurately calculated, they do not factor in owner related issues. For example, less responsible owners or owners who want to foster aggression in their dogs may be drawn differentially to certain breeds (like pit bulls).

-Breed-specific legislation does not address the fact that a dog of any breed can become dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive.

-since 1975, dogs belonging to more than 30 breeds have been responsible for fatal attacks on people, including Dachshunds, a Yorkshire Terrier, and a Labrador Retriever.

-Several interacting factors affect a dog’s propensity to bite, including heredity, sex, early experience, socialization and training, health (medical and behavioral), reproductive status, quality of ownership and supervision, and victim behavior.

Please do some REAL research next time.
Here is a website to start at: www.badrap.org

And, I never accused you of anything.


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New Post! Mar 21, 2008 @ 00:08:22#14
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darkshine said:
I think you should get to know pitbulls better before you accuse them of something.


I just said I have, and my baby sitter used to have one when I was little. It was mean. I was afraid to go to her house.


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New Post! Mar 21, 2008 @ 00:09:23#15
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vaboom said:
I see that you took the link off that you originally posted.


I took it down because I didn't want to start an argument over research. Apparently it failed.


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