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New Post! Aug 25, 2008 @ 07:49:31#61
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rehabilitation_please said:
Iron, then maybe steel but alluminium is not that heavy.

Wrong.
Specific gravity of Iron: 490.0595 lbs/cu.ft.
Lead: 707.9332 lbs/cu.ft.

Shit, even Mercury, Cobalt, Copper, Gold, Molybdenum, Nickel, Silver, Platinum, and Tungsten are all "heavier" than Iron.

Interestingly, Steel (which is an alloy) in cold rolled form is AS dense as Iron, not less.

Just a tip: Make sure you actually have some facts to throw around before you try to condescend toward somebody.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 18:09:04#62
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o come on!!!!!!! how the f**k is black metal the heaviest form of metal?
its obviously death metal if anything. but then, what do u mean byy the heaviest? its a hard thing to define.
so in total,punk is heavier anyway. grindcore is much faster distorted and aggressive than 99% of modern metal.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 19:12:23#63
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Corecore is the hardest musical form of all cores. Its even harder than the time GG Allin shat on a record on stage. It is a musical style that connects 1000bpm hardcore with sirens to autonamous anarchist punk ravers in leather studded jackets and phat pants. It usually features a 'rise above the system', or 'destroy your parliamentcore' sample.

If corecore was a drug, it would be speedmethiceampetamineballs. It would be so powerful that you would have an instant heart attack, and no one would even notice because they are dancing like communist nihalists. (Which is the hardest form of core dancing availiable).

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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 19:27:03#64
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^ Holy SHIT XD


Probably death metal.


Black metal isn't very heavy, per se, though it's certainly aggressive. Most BM bands tune to E Standard, whereas I know of death metal bands that go as low as B, A, or Drop G on 7-string guitars, and Meshuggah and Divine Heresy tune to G standard on 8-string guitars. Doom is pretty heavy as well, Electric Wizard tune to G-standard for most of their stuff. Generally when reverring to heavy, you take into account the low-end of the tone, not the speed or aggressiveness.

Listen to bands like Wormphlegm or Esoteric for what I mean, it's so heavy that the atmosphere itself can suffocate you.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 20:11:26#65
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ceephax said:

Corecore is the hardest musical form of all cores. Its even harder than the time GG Allin shat on a record on stage. It is a musical style that connects 1000bpm hardcore with sirens to autonamous anarchist punk ravers in leather studded jackets and phat pants. It usually features a 'rise above the system', or 'destroy your parliamentcore' sample.

If corecore was a drug, it would be speedmethiceampetamineballs. It would be so powerful that you would have an instant heart attack, and no one would even notice because they are dancing like communist nihalists. (Which is the hardest form of core dancing availiable).



shame u just made it up


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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 20:56:42#66
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PugioInAversoBelli said:

Black metal isn't very heavy, per se, though it's certainly aggressive. Most BM bands tune to E Standard, whereas I know of death metal bands that go as low as B, A, or Drop G on 7-string guitars, and Meshuggah and Divine Heresy tune to G standard on 8-string guitars. Doom is pretty heavy as well, Electric Wizard tune to G-standard for most of their stuff. Generally when reverring to heavy, you take into account the low-end of the tone, not the speed or aggressiveness.

Listen to bands like Wormphlegm or Esoteric for what I mean, it's so heavy that the atmosphere itself can suffocate you.

So it's not about lyrical themes or ideas? So I could write a song about how bad my farts smell as long as my guitar is tuned to G and it would be the heaviest s**t evar? Doom to me is just bad black metal played very slow.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2008 @ 21:04:28#67
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hey man, check out eyehategod, bongzilla, noothgrush, grief, s**t like that..... they distance themselves from "doom" metal like my dying bride and electric wizard and are generally based around weed, and cla** themselves as sludge. they are awesome, unlike s**tty "doom" metal like the aforementioned my dying bride. just slowed down, chilled the f**kout death metal with stoner themes.


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New Post! Nov 08, 2008 @ 03:36:20#68
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tardcore said:

So it's not about lyrical themes or ideas? So I could write a song about how bad my farts smell as long as my guitar is tuned to G and it would be the heaviest s**t evar? Doom to me is just bad black metal played very slow.




Yes, essentially. Heaviness is a feeling. Oppressive and really prominent ba** tones, as well as lots of gain, really are what makes a band heavy. There's some intense black metal bands, like Xasthur and Impaled Nazarene, but they're not HEAVY, at least not the way I think about it.


for Heavy that's not Death or doom, try out Strapping Young Lad.


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New Post! Nov 08, 2008 @ 18:47:07#69
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death metal for sure for me. heaviness is subjective. my definition of heavy is a loud mix, where the guitars have an excellent ba** response to them. optimum separation of instruments is crucial to getting good clarity and heaviness. i feel that nowadays bands want to compress the crap out of their mixes and that to me removes the heaviness since it degenerates the dynamics of the instruments. all of this is my take on it. someone else around here can have a totally different view than me and that's completely fine.

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New Post! Nov 08, 2008 @ 21:58:41#70
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I would have to say grindcore. sorta like a combination of death metal and gore metal and thrash. fast and heavy f**king s**t.


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New Post! Nov 08, 2008 @ 22:42:02#71
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PugioInAversoBelli said:

Yes, essentially. Heaviness is a feeling. Oppressive and really prominent ba** tones, as well as lots of gain, really are what makes a band heavy. There's some intense black metal bands, like Xasthur and Impaled Nazarene, but they're not HEAVY, at least not the way I think about it.


for Heavy that's not Death or doom, try out Strapping Young Lad.

But regarding black metal, Xasthur sucks and Impaled Nazarene is borderline on the chopping block. IDK, maybe I'm trying to make the point that heavy doesn't always equal good(wrong thread maybe). I just think Doom and Depressive Black Metal(still don't know what that means, it's like a huge paradox by my definition of Black Metal.)sucks. My favorite Black Metal bands are Antaeus, Absu and Averse Sefira because their songs worship the strength in nature and mainly stress the follies and failures of humankind and have muddy, distorted guitars and low production values used for effect and atmosphere and not just as some "black metal trademark gimick". That to me is heavy.


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New Post! Nov 08, 2008 @ 23:31:23#72
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Xasthur, I have to be in the right mood to enjoy and i just picked impnaz as kinda an example.

The point I'm trying to make, I guess, is that "heaviness" isn't exactly something that genre determines. you can have very heavy black metal, and death metal that has no "weight" to it all (Necrophagist comes to mind). Heaviness is something that's at least 75% rooted in the production values of the music. Well-produced music generally has a heavier feel. Possibly the most overproduced band I've ever heard would be Evergrey, and their sound is just so overwhelmingly heavy that you don't just hear it, you feel it.


also, Just because you don't like a band or think its respective genre sucks, doesn't mean they're a bad band.

A lot of people here seem to get "good" and "favorite" confused.


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New Post! Nov 09, 2008 @ 00:38:58#73
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XxfidgetxX said:

I would have to say grindcore. sorta like a combination of death metal and gore metal and thrash. fast and heavy f**king s**t.

sped up hardcore punk with metallic leanings


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New Post! Nov 25, 2008 @ 20:26:36#74
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New Post! Nov 26, 2008 @ 14:15:25#75
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yeh define heavy. it means something different to everyone.


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