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ThePainefulTruth
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Peoria, Arizona
#1New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 04:21:45
This could be in entertainment, politics or religion. It's a subject from another movie forum but one that asks an even bigger question than all those subjects combined.

Which art polarizes us? The thread title is prejudicial. We're looking at movie titles with opinions about them grouped at the extremes. So is that polarization caused by the film or a reflection of it? I'm pretty sure it's some of both, probably even mostly the latter, but labeling them polarizing suggests that the latter aren't to be considered....rather, in fact, they should be ignored.

If a film promotes the Truth, how is it a polarizing film, unless the Truth polarizes us? Is The Help polarizing, or Inherit the Wind? Only if one side supports the lie.
On May 06, 2013
cisslybee2012

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Bronx, New York
#2New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:08:27
@ThePainefulTruth Said

This could be in entertainment, politics or religion. It's a subject from another movie forum but one that asks an even bigger question than all those subjects combined.

Which art polarizes us? The thread title is prejudicial. We're looking at movie titles with opinions about them grouped at the extremes. So is that polarization caused by the film or a reflection of it? I'm pretty sure it's some of both, probably even mostly the latter, but labeling them polarizing suggests that the latter aren't to be considered....rather, in fact, they should be ignored.

If a film promotes the Truth, how is it a polarizing film, unless the Truth polarizes us? Is The Help polarizing, or Inherit the Wind? Only if one side supports the lie.



I think that probably everything or at least most things polarize us as our feelings tend to sway to one side of the spectrum.
On January 30, 2013
bob_the_fisherman
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, Australia
#3New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:20:41
I don't know about movies, but, this is the kind of art that tears us apart... well... it tore 100 or so people apart.

On March 31, 2013
ThePainefulTruth
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#4New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:25:26
@cisslybee2012 Said

I think that probably everything or at least most things polarize us as our feelings tend to sway to one side of the spectrum.


Yeah, but that's the point, they're already on their own sides for the most part. Making accusations of polarization is mostly hokum.


@bob_the_fisherman Said

I don't know about movies, but, this is the kind of art that tears us apart... well... it tore 100 or so people apart.



I don't think that's even art. More like inflammatory, in-your-face s***--to people who are begging for it.
On May 06, 2013
bob_the_fisherman
Anatidaephobic





, Australia
#5New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:29:40
@ThePainefulTruth Said

I don't think that's even art. More like inflammatory, in-your-face s***--to people who are begging for it.


Cartoons are a form of art in my opinion. I would call it edgy or controversial "art" as unlike Piss Christ, it was truly a critique of of a verbotten moral code (which is the kind of crap the 'creator' of Piss Christ claimed for his 'art' ).
On March 31, 2013
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#6New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:55:38
what do you call a guy hanging on a wall with no arms or legs?

art.
On April 30, 2013
cisslybee2012

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Bronx, New York
#7New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 05:57:53
@ThePainefulTruth Said

This could be in entertainment, politics or religion. It's a subject from another movie forum but one that asks an even bigger question than all those subjects combined.

Which art polarizes us? The thread title is prejudicial. We're looking at movie titles with opinions about them grouped at the extremes. So is that polarization caused by the film or a reflection of it? I'm pretty sure it's some of both, probably even mostly the latter, but labeling them polarizing suggests that the latter aren't to be considered....rather, in fact, they should be ignored.

If a film promotes the Truth, how is it a polarizing film, unless the Truth polarizes us? Is The Help polarizing, or Inherit the Wind? Only if one side supports the lie.



@Willi Said

what do you call a guy hanging on a wall with no arms or legs?

art.


Jesus?
On January 30, 2013
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#8New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 06:02:55
@cisslybee2012 Said

Jesus?



noooo, i'm willi
On April 30, 2013
cisslybee2012

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Bronx, New York
#9New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 06:04:12
@Willi Said

noooo, i'm willi



Oh.

Ooops.
On January 30, 2013
sister_of_mercy




London, United Kingdom
#10New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 10:45:24
All art polarises us, that's the point. Although there's the whole aesthetic ideology, ultimately I don't think art is founded on anything objective necessarily. Unless you'd call it some kind of instinctual impulse to escape as being universal and objective, I don't know.

But with films especially, they deal with subjective constructs, usually because they deal with people and social situations in which there is no definitive emotional response as such. You can try to induce a desired response but not everyone is going to think the same.

As far as films that polarised the opinions of my friends and I, I'd have to go with Clockwork Orange. I think it's a beautiful film in a way but some of my other friends were quite disturbed by it (which is fair enough).
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ThePainefulTruth
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Peoria, Arizona
#11New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 17:14:19
@sister_of_mercy Said

All art polarises us, that's the point. Although there's the whole aesthetic ideology, ultimately I don't think art is founded on anything objective necessarily. Unless you'd call it some kind of instinctual impulse to escape as being universal and objective, I don't know.


But with films especially, they deal with subjective constructs, usually because they deal with people and social situations in which there is no definitive emotional response as such. You can try to induce a desired response but not everyone is going to think the same.

As far as films that polarised the opinions of my friends and I, I'd have to go with Clockwork Orange. I think it's a beautiful film in a way but some of my other friends were quite disturbed by it (which is fair enough).


Some art does and some doesn't. Often enough there is heavy agreement about a film or whatever artwork that a vast majority agree is really good or really bad. When opinion is split/polarized, often it's the message rather than the medium that's the focus, and we can view each to be in opposite directions. A Clockwork Orange is a good example of an excellent film but it's about appeasing punks. Avatar is another absolutely beautiful film but it's message is anti-capitalism and nature worship paganism/idolatry.
On May 06, 2013
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#12New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 21:41:21
@cisslybee2012 Said

Oh.

Ooops.



the guy hangin on the wall, his name is Art.
his brother Bob likes to go up n down in the water.
his other brother Mat just lays by the door.
On April 30, 2013
chaski




Miami, Florida
#13New Post! May 27, 2012 @ 21:50:29
"Do the Right Thing"
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ThePainefulTruth
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Peoria, Arizona
#14New Post! May 28, 2012 @ 02:03:14
@chaski Said

"Do the Right Thing"


Never saw it. Pro'ly 'cause Spike Lee directed it. I can just imagine what his idea of "the right thing" would be, particularly back in '89. Just sayin'. If I accidentally do see it and and am proven wrong, you'll hear it here first.
On May 06, 2013
chaski




Miami, Florida
#15New Post! May 28, 2012 @ 02:53:17
@ThePainefulTruth Said

Never saw it. Pro'ly 'cause Spike Lee directed it. I can just imagine what his idea of "the right thing" would be, particularly back in '89. Just sayin'. If I accidentally do see it and and am proven wrong, you'll hear it here first.



If memory serves, the movie digressed into a racially charged riot.
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