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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 14:19:34#1
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Ok, I have some pretty confusing beliefs on this subject but I wanted to see what everyone else feels. Is it mentally healthy to feel you should be a different gender and it is mentally safe to change you sex if you feel this way?


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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 14:21:56#2
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I think some people are born with gender confusion and i think its possible to be born the wrong sex!


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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 15:06:19#3
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My personal thoughts are that it is a mental "issue". He/she thinks that he/she should be a different sex - but clearly he/she is a woman/man.
Maybe it is down to a genetic problem they are born with - maybe they got too much of a certain hormone which has mixed their minds up.
Maybe (As has been documented), this person was born with some genetic characteristics of both sexes.
Maybe even (If you believe this, and want to be philosophical), that person was a different sex in a former life (Well you never know do you).

As to it being mentally safe to undergo a sex-change, well this surely must be a huge step. The transexual may THINK they are the opposite sex, but inevitably, there are some things that cannot be altered (Hand size, face shape etc) - and they will always look like a man dressed as a woman - or vice versa really. It's never really going to be possible to fully make that person the opposite sex, genetically they will still be their former sex.

There really isn't any easy answers.


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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 15:06:42#4
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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 16:58:24#5
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I am of the belief that there is a distinct diference between being a 'transsexual' and a 'transgender'. A transsexual is often described as someone who generally feel that they are trapped in a body of the opposite sex and is planning or has undergone a sex change, whereas a transgender is a person who may act, feel, think, and look like someone of the other sex.

Transsexual people are often construed as belonging to the LGBT or the Queer community, and I apologise in advance if this sounds crude... as the terms used are often viewed as 'derogatory' and offensive to some. Transsexuality should not be confused with cross dressing or the behaviour of drag queens, who can be described as transgender, but usually not transsexual.

I think that transsexuals are such mostly because of their genetic makeup (or deficiency). Many (if not all) people who decide to change their sex physically so that their emotional neds may be satisfied - have realised that they are 'different' from the time they are aware of the norms in society. This is definitely not brought about by the need to conform (in fact, entirely the opposite) neither is it an attention seeking gimmick. Most who remain closeted due to societal pressures are torn between truly being who they feel they are and adhering to the acceptable society codes as their natural-born identities. They can't help who they are and feeling what they do.

Transgenders, however... may be those that are still in the "curiosity fuelled hormone-induced" stages. They may be so due to peer pressure, or to satisfy their need to find out how it would be like being a man / woman. For example... the high numbers of woman + woman / man + man relationships in a single sex school may be attributed to the fact that some of these individuals attempt to fill an absent, required persona in order to fulfill a basic human need, i.e: to love and feel loved / cared for in return. In time - they may decide to walk the 'straight' path again.

Regardless of how and why transsexuality comes about... it is still widely considered a deviant act in most societies, and these individuals are treated as outcasts and barely acknowledged... especially by people with deeply seated beliefs in less tolerant societies.

Many seem to not be able to accept the fact that they are normal in every other aspect. Their sexual preferences is their personal choice; and thus ought to be respected. If only they were given half a chance and treated equally, we may find out (albeit begrudgingly) that they are no different from you and me.

On a lighter note... let me present to you: Ms Gay Thailand / World 2005.

And yes... they used to be men.









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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 17:00:40#6
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To me its like BDD. Its self hate, like it or not our sex, the biology of it, is who we are, gender may be constructed but sex is biologically determined. Its almost like saying its ok to want to cut your nose off because you'd feel more complete without it (BDD) so the question becomes wether to discourage these desires and promote self acceptence or wether to encourage the desired change in a hope it will result in happyness wether its mentally healthy or not. The thin I think makes me so certain its a case of self hate is the amount of change, a transexual does not just change their sexual organs but also their name, their persona its like they become a different person, not just a different personality either but a different identity which when we apply this to any other issue is considerd self loathing and amazingly unhealthy. Many also say that they still remain unhappy afterwards, feeling unaccepted still, like the change hasn't taken away unhappyness just changed the form it takes, and there becomes more self loathing.

Its a confusing issue for me, on the one hand I think its really unhealthy and we should be encouraging people to love themselves but on the other hand I don't want to condem anyone for the choices they make or to prevent anyone doing something they think is going to make them happy


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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 17:02:27#7
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As for the Ms Gay Thailand / World 2005, I'd sell my soul to look like any of them


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New Post! Feb 05, 2006 @ 17:07:20#8
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miss_katie said:
As for the Ms Gay Thailand / World 2005, I'd sell my soul to look like any of them


I heard one would only need US$10,000 for the whole ging gang goolie goolie...



So - your soul is safe, katie!



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New Post! Feb 09, 2006 @ 23:48:24#9
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Actually there is a disease in guys that causes gender confusion. It is called triple X disease. You know how guys are XY and girls are XX well, in the disease the guy gets another X in there like XYx instead of XY. And in some cases that is why some guys want ot have a transex susuregury ....thats my belief

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New Post! Feb 10, 2006 @ 00:07:51#10
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New Post! Feb 10, 2006 @ 00:19:22#12
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plasmicblast said:
Actually there is a disease in guys that causes gender confusion. It is called triple X disease. You know how guys are XY and girls are XX well, in the disease the guy gets another X in there like XYx instead of XY. And in some cases that is why some guys want ot have a transex susuregury ....thats my belief


Guys can have triple-x? I thought only females could have triple-X and males could have XYY


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New Post! Feb 10, 2006 @ 00:20:22#13
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New Post! Feb 10, 2006 @ 00:21:44#14
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Guys can have triple-x? I thought only females could have triple-X and males could have XYY



Aha!

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Triple X syndrome is a rare chromosomal abnormality that affects only females.


link [www.mayoclinic.com]


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New Post! Feb 10, 2006 @ 00:29:21#15
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I think people are going to do what they want to do. Some people are more likely to undergo such a life changing surgical procedure than others are. Do I think it's right? Eh, I don't know. I don't really think it's for me to decide. I don't know much about it. I don't particularly want a sex change. Who am I to say it's wrong for a person to want to be happier?

I think a lot probably has to do with personality. Your personality can help determine what is appealing to you and what isn't. Or, maybe something happened to you when you were young that caused you to feel this way. Your personality, and your environment, then. Everything is shaped and affected by everything else.

It will affect people differently. Is it mentally healthy to feel this way? Maybe, maybe not. Is it mentally safe to change your sex? Some people will have a better time dealing with it than others It's hard to tell.


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