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Vizzy
Über-Minister 19978 points


38/F/, Florida Join Date: Aug 2007 | kit said: Just to throw in my chips on this matter, I think he should have hit her harder than he actually did. If I started a fight with anyone, male or female, I would expect to be hit back, and I wouldn't go around complaining about the fact.
Women constantly complain about not having equal rights, but the moment something happens that they don't like, they revert back to the pathetic "But he's a boy and I'm just a girl" oppinion and state of mind. It pisses me off!
My son had a crazy girlfriend once. She jumped on him and tried to strangle him...hands around his throat, cutting him with her nails. You know what? I really don't care how he got her the hell off of him, I'm just glad he did. Just because she's female doesn't give her the right to try to kill him and expect to not encounter physical resistance.
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arcades
Über Master Debater 9720 points


25/M/Northbay, Canada Join Date: Aug 2005 | kit said: OK, so at my school few days ago, a boy and a girl were in a fight. The girl started the fight (as far as I know), and the boy naturally hit back. But now a lot of people are after him because he hit a girl.
Thinking about the situation, was it wrong of him to hit back, instead of walking away, or taking it, or just trying to stop her, without actually hitting back? It's not always easy to walk away from something like that, and if it had been him against another guy, there'd probably be no problem.
So is this guy in the right or in the wrong? In today's modern society, is it acceptable to say that a girl hitting a guy is fine, but the guy hitting back wrong?
I think he was in the right.To say a woman can hit a man but not the other way around is a doubble standard and an abomination to equal rights. It should be as wrong to hit a man without just cause as it is to hit a woman. Either way no one should be hit unless adequetly provoked. | | |
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jonnythan
Twinky 97160 points


27/M/NY, New York Join Date: Aug 2005 | treebee said: Surely its not acceptable for a girl to walk up to a boy and smack him in the face for no reason? And this does happen and some girls are biffas.
No, no.
Violence is never acceptable.
There is some element of fairness in responding in kind when attacked, but that goes out the window when the person responding is much bigger, stronger, or hits much harder than the person who started it.
If some 5'4, 90-lb dork with glasses tries to hit me, I'm not going to punch him in the face and break his nose - because I don't have to in order to defend myself. If someone roughly my size punches me in the face, then I will probably try my best to beat them up because it's more of a fair fight.
My point is that it's not socially acceptable to take advantage of a physical advantage in a fight. The 200-lb professional boxer would be scorned for punching the 90-lb heckler who kicked him in the shin. A guy would be scorned for slapping a woman who hit him.
Women are almost invariably the "disadvantaged" party in a fight with a male. It's not fair, and IMO not right, to take advantage of a physical advantage and hurt someone who really has little to no ability to hurt you (barring some rare instances when the attacker is genuinely trying to inflict real damage on or kill someone).
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Vizzy
Über-Minister 19978 points


38/F/, Florida Join Date: Aug 2007 | jonnythan said: No, no.
Violence is never acceptable.
There is some element of fairness in responding in kind when attacked, but that goes out the window when the person responding is much bigger, stronger, or hits much harder than the person who started it.
If some 5'4, 90-lb dork with glasses tries to hit me, I'm not going to punch him in the face and break his nose - because I don't have to in order to defend myself. If someone roughly my size punches me in the face, then I will probably try my best to beat them up because it's more of a fair fight.
My point is that it's not socially acceptable to take advantage of a physical advantage in a fight. The 200-lb professional boxer would be scorned for punching the 90-lb heckler who kicked him in the shin. A guy would be scorned for slapping a woman who hit him.
Women are almost invariably the "disadvantaged" party in a fight with a male. It's not fair, and IMO not right, to take advantage of a physical advantage and hurt someone who really has little to no ability to hurt you (barring some rare instances when the attacker is genuinely trying to inflict real damage on or kill someone).
But what burden of responsibility does the weaker/smaller person who started the violence carry? Shouldn't they have personal responsibility? SHouldn't they expect to receive physical force in kind?
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treebee UM - BONGO Über-Administrator 160109 points


38/F/Escaped!!!, United Kingdom Join Date: Oct 2005 | jonnythan said: No, no.
Violence is never acceptable.
There is some element of fairness in responding in kind when attacked, but that goes out the window when the person responding is much bigger, stronger, or hits much harder than the person who started it.
If some 5'4, 90-lb dork with glasses tries to hit me, I'm not going to punch him in the face and break his nose - because I don't have to in order to defend myself. If someone roughly my size punches me in the face, then I will probably try my best to beat them up because it's more of a fair fight.
My point is that it's not socially acceptable to take advantage of a physical advantage in a fight. The 200-lb professional boxer would be scorned for punching the 90-lb heckler who kicked him in the shin. A guy would be scorned for slapping a woman who hit him.
Women are almost invariably the "disadvantaged" party in a fight with a male. It's not fair, and IMO not right, to take advantage of a physical advantage and hurt someone who really has little to no ability to hurt you (barring some rare instances when the attacker is genuinely trying to inflict real damage on or kill someone).
I understand and agree and overall men are bigger than women therefore the impact of a blow from a man would be more damaging than a woman. I just wish that girls would get it through thier heads that it is not acceptable to attack a guy other than in self defence and certainly not to pick on the little guy in school.
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jonnythan
Twinky 97160 points


27/M/NY, New York Join Date: Aug 2005 | vizzy said: But what burden of responsibility does the weaker/smaller person who started the violence carry? Shouldn't they have personal responsibility? SHouldn't they expect to receive physical force in kind?
treebee said: I just wish that girls would get it through thier heads that it is not acceptable to attack a guy other than in self defence and certainly not to pick on the little guy in school.
Of course the attacker bears responsibility for their actions.
Of course it's not acceptable for anyone to try to hit anyone else.
However, the punishment for a girl hitting me should *not* be getting punched in return - and certainly not by me. That's not how a proper justice system works IMO. The victim should not be the one deciding on and dishing out the punishment in such an unfair situation.
If a girl attacked me in school, I'd deflect her attacks and possibly restrain her til she stopped attempting to hit me. Then I'd let the school authorities deal with her.
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