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New Post! Apr 26, 2008 @ 04:53:52#16
amish

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saying a person isn't fit to be president because they don't like his pastor is pretty stupid, but not surprising, i thought they would stoop even lower and just be openly racist.

i don't see race being a big facotr in the religion. i do think if hillary wins, it will be because of sexism and the appeal to older voters, of which there are more. however the fact that hillary stoops to the same tactics we'd get from rush limbaugh is one reason i'd never support her. but if she gets elected (i think she might) i'll support any good she does. if she does any.


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New Post! Apr 26, 2008 @ 04:56:24#17
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amish said:
saying a person isn't fit to be president because they don't like his pastor is pretty stupid, but not surprising, i thought they would stoop even lower and just be openly racist.

i don't see race being a big facotr in the religion. i do think if hillary wins, it will be because of sexism and the appeal to older voters, of which there are more. however the fact that hillary stoops to the same tactics we'd get from rush limbaugh is one reason i'd never support her. but if she gets elected (i think she might) i'll support any good she does. if she does any.


People don't typically attend a church unless they share the beliefs of that church. His attending that church for 20 years says a lot about him.
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New Post! Apr 30, 2008 @ 01:09:30#18
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Amen raditz8526!

Now after hearing the nice <cough> speech that Pastor Wright has given, Obama is denouncing him. Why didn't he denounce his teachings 20 years ago? I think Obama is an undercover racist and radical and doesn't want the public to see that side of him because he knows it wouldn't do him any good in the election. Wright has come out looking as angry, racist and anti-American as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the other men that spout off about how bad it is to be black in America.

People make their own life choices. If they work hard, get an education, they can do what they want and I really doubt there are that many companies that wouldn't hire someone because of the color of their skin in this day and age. If they had those practices, who would want to work for them anyway? But our country has come a long way since even 1970 when it would have been unheard of for a black man to run for the presidency. Now it's accepted and possible but not for someone who is so wishy washy about his association with his own minister.

I'm just really tired of hearing about how hard it is on black people in America. There have been plenty of people raised very poor, had very hard lives and still made it.

But you can't wait for the government to do it for you. You have to reach and attain your own dreams. Welfare is not a way of life, it's a short term solution to help people get on their feet, not a career. But we have people who make it their career and then bitch about how bad they have it. Just doesn't make sense to me why they expect everyone owes them a living. Then they raise their children believing the same thing. The more kids you have the more money you get. But it's never enough and the first thing that the government takes away from someone who depends on it is self pride.

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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 03:43:15#19
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I'm just really tired of hearing about how hard it is on black people in America.


i'm really tired of hearing it's a christian nation. if there were any christians in it, they would probably give a s**t about those less fortunate, instead of giving lip service to them and god on sundays, then bitching that poor people are lazy. working three jobs and still not having enough to take two kids to regular doctor appointments isn't lazy, it's oppressed.

and some of those poor happen to be black, but some people (let's not call them racists, because no one is anymore!) would like to focus on helping the impoverished whites only, while implying that black people haven't earned the right to be cared about.

how do they end up there? simple, they paint all black people with the same brush. but let's not call it racism. let's call it fake christianity, the official religion of right wing america.


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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 03:51:56#20
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amish said:
i'm really tired of hearing it's a christian nation. if there were any christians in it, they would probably give a s**t about those less fortunate, instead of giving lip service to them and god on sundays, then bitching that poor people are lazy. working three jobs and still not having enough to take two kids to regular doctor appointments isn't lazy, it's oppressed.

and some of those poor happen to be black, but some people (let's not call them racists, because no one is anymore!) would like to focus on helping the impoverished whites only, while implying that black people haven't earned the right to be cared about.

how do they end up there? simple, they paint all black people with the same brush. but let's not call it racism. let's call it fake christianity, the official religion of right wing america.


here we go with the stereotyping and hating again.
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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 03:59:41#21
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amish said:
i'm really tired of hearing it's a christian nation. if there were any christians in it, they would probably give a s**t about those less fortunate, instead of giving lip service to them and god on sundays, then bitching that poor people are lazy. working three jobs and still not having enough to take two kids to regular doctor appointments isn't lazy, it's oppressed.

and some of those poor happen to be black, but some people (let's not call them racists, because no one is anymore!) would like to focus on helping the impoverished whites only, while implying that black people haven't earned the right to be cared about.

how do they end up there? simple, they paint all black people with the same brush. but let's not call it racism. let's call it fake christianity, the official religion of right wing america.


Can I join your pity party for the poor? No one is oppressing them. They are poor because of poor choices they made through out their life. They are responsible for their position in life, no one else.
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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 04:00:37#22
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please don't act like there hasn't been 8 years of stereotyping and bulls**t from the right okay?

"unamerican," confusing party loyalty with patriotism, freedom fries, and the bulls**t i have to hear from raditz even though i have him ignored. it's not like this is just me, it's my country too. get over yourself, enginere, please.

you're not the only one with an opinion, and i was responding to mermaid's ridiculous rightwing stereotype of black people. don't make the far right out to be the victim, it's too pathetic.

and just for the record the far right is racist. you'd have to go out of your way to ignore it if you can't see that.

if you are a little bit more conscious than they are, i'm not lumping you in with them. but if you're defending their hate and comparing my complaint about it to their hatred, then there's not much anyone can tell you, is there?


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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 04:01:05#23
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I don't understand why people are raising such a stink about this Wright guy. This man loves being the center of attention and it is unfair that this man has the potential to snuff out Obama's chance of a fair shot at the presidency.

I don't think there is one person on Earth that only socializes with people that have the same beliefs as them 100%. It is possible to be friends with someone that has one flaw. Given this whole debacle, should I drop some of my friends because of their hang ups?

Now I will admit that that Wright guy sounds like an extremeist but his behavior is typical from what I've seen at most of the black churches I've been to. Every black pastor I have heard speak as been very keen of placing all problem with their community on the people in charge of the government (i.e. the white man).

Just because Obama was a member of Wright's church, it does not mean that he believes the same thing he does. There have been many times where my pastor has said something I didn't agree with. Did I up and leave the church because I disagreed? No. I just shrugged it off, formed my own opinion, and moved on. I have a feeling Obama did the same thing. Plus he is a US senator. How many Sundays do you think he missed because of his job? He could have been in DC doing most of Wright's rants?


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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 04:05:53#24
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amish said:
please don't act like there hasn't been 8 years of stereotyping and bulls**t from the right okay?

"unamerican," confusing party loyalty with patriotism, freedom fries, and the bulls**t i have to hear from raditz even though i have him ignored. it's not like this is just me, it's my country too. get over yourself, enginere, please.

you're not the only one with an opinion, and i was responding to mermaid's ridiculous rightwing stereotype of black people. don't make the far right out to be the victim, it's too pathetic.

and just for the record the far right is racist. you'd have to go out of your way to ignore it if you can't see that.

if you are a little bit more conscious than they are, i'm not lumping you in with them. but if you're defending their hate and comparing my complaint about it to their hatred, then there's not much anyone can tell you, is there?


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!

How can someone be this ignorant? lol
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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 04:15:40#25
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mermaid said:
Amen raditz8526!

But you can't wait for the government to do it for you. You have to reach and attain your own dreams. Welfare is not a way of life, it's a short term solution to help people get on their feet, not a career. But we have people who make it their career and then bitch about how bad they have it. Just doesn't make sense to me why they expect everyone owes them a living. Then they raise their children believing the same thing. The more kids you have the more money you get. But it's never enough and the first thing that the government takes away from someone who depends on it is self pride.




Good Bless you, I love you. Are you married.

Anybody with a legitimate education should understand the dynamics of giving people rewards for being ignorant and lazy.

Not to offend anyone on this post but the same can be said about labor unions. When ever the government steps in a true allocation of the economies resourses cannot be achieved. Sure some level can be justified as I guess it would be unfare to assist some individuals but unfare has a cost to each and everyone of us and it BREEDS Laziness.
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New Post! May 01, 2008 @ 04:22:45#28
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amish said:
i'm really tired of hearing it's a christian nation. if there were any christians in it, they would probably give a s**t about those less fortunate, instead of giving lip service to them and god on sundays, then bitching that poor people are lazy. working three jobs and still not having enough to take two kids to regular doctor appointments isn't lazy, it's oppressed.

and some of those poor happen to be black, but some people (let's not call them racists, because no one is anymore!) would like to focus on helping the impoverished whites only, while implying that black people haven't earned the right to be cared about.

how do they end up there? simple, they paint all black people with the same brush. but let's not call it racism. let's call it fake christianity, the official religion of right wing america.






Question, why do they work three jobs??

Chances are the people that you speak of lack the education to better themselves. It is not my obligation to make sure someone is motivated and driven enough to make a life for themselves instead of asking to eat out of my hand and begging at my feet.

My mother owned a Charity in SC for many years where they provided for those less fortunate and there were times when the individuals seeking help were dealt a band hand of cards but the statistics speak for themselves. There are only 52 cards in a deck. Seriously stop lieing to yourself. It is doing nobody any good.
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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 03:48:30#29
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I can speak personally on being poor. I made some bad choices when I was a teen. I got married at 17, had a baby at 18. We were very poor but the only help we would allow ourselves to take from the government were food stamps. That was so we could feed our baby. We both worked and went back to school. I have one degree and now working on my second. I have raised two children and I own a home and work in a professional job. I didn't depend on the government for longer than 2 years. I realized that I wouldn't get anywhere without an education. I qualified for grants and loans and went to school.
That same opportunity is out there for everyone.
I worked part-time at Head Start years ago and we would offer training classes for the parents. They could come to school with their child and get their GED, learn how to make healthier choices with food stamps and make their stamps go farther. We also taught how to apply for and interview well on a job. No one ever showed up for those classes. They weren't interested.
So to me, they decided they wanted to stay poor, it was their decision. We have many people that make that choice.
When a child can start head start at 3 years old, it's time to either find a job or get training. No excuse for not having a babysitter either. The government will pay for that expense.
It's pure laziness.

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 04:32:52#30
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"This whole issue with Obama" is not racism.

This issue with Obama is that he is a "Freshman" Senator with virtually no experience in running a country, a bureaucracy (and make no mistake, the US goverment is a huge bureaucracy), a state...anything beyond the cases he worked at his law firm...which are nothing like a government.

He has not even finished his 1st term as a senator!

he has no network of people to bring with him to help him (Opra? Jesse Jackson? Who?)

He talks about change and hope...what change? hope for what? He never says anything of substance.

This issue with Obama is not racism...this issue is that he is less ready for the job than Bush was !!!!

And that is a scary thought!!!!!!!!



you're a hypocriticizer too so stfu

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