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Forum Index > News & Politics > Racism | >> This racism just does not occur to aynone else anymore! | | |
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Spinkiegirl
Minister 14753 points


47/F/Chicago, Illinois Join Date: Jun 2008 | shinobinoz said:
I really get pissed when the dominate culture wants to denigrate racism as something that no longer occurs, something in the past, or only towards them now as reverse discrimination.
Check this $hit out!
link [www.indiancountrytoday.com]
Great links bro.....I put that sight in my favorites.......you know I too get so tired of some saying "racism is so in the past" Yeah...we have come far...but NOT even close to where we NEED to be.....thanks for the info!!!  Nothing but love for you......and all people!!! 

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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | Spinkiegirl said:
Great links bro.....I put that sight in my favorites.......you know I too get so tired of some saying "racism is so in the past" Yeah...we have come far...but NOT even close to where we NEED to be.....thanks for the info!!!  Nothing but love for you......and all people!!!
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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | Quote: Casey Asimus, 22, stressed that she was not speaking for her employer, Where the Buffalo Roam, a store on the city’s 16th Street Mall that sells a variety of T-shirts and city and state souvenirs.
I live here and have never heard of these shirts. However, I'm well aware of this store so I can go there tomorrow and see for myself if these shirts really exist.
Also, I agree with the Italian Day to replace Columbus Day suggestion (though I'd strongly suggest a better name). It's the ONLY solution as far as I can see. | | |
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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | I went to the store and will now give you my observations. 1st, I didn't notice the part of the article where the store said they took down the shirts, which coincides with what I saw. However, I DID see 1 shirt hidden amongst other shirts on a rack (probably missed by the employees). It wasn't any of the 1's in the story, but you could probably call it a bit insensitive "Proud member of the Fahkahre Tribe. We're the Fahkahre." (message on the shirt). However, I also saw a shirt with the picture of 19th century Indians holding guns with the caption "fighting terrorism since 1776" on it, so at most they're sending mixed messages. The next thing I found interesting completely clashes with this quote from the article.
Quote: Evidence of systemic racism “is strongly supported by the fact that there is never outrage among caucasians when such racist garbage as the T-shirts, which degrade the indigenous peoples of the Americas, are offered for sale. If such garbage were offered for sale about other races of people, it would be widely publicized and widely condemned.”
In reality, I found 3 shirts depicting the Irish as a bunch of drunks. Depending on your interpretation, 1 of them could be seen as calling them violent as well. The fact the Indian shirts caused some controversy even though you have to hunt to find them, and 1 of them was from their point of view, and the Irish shirts will likely never even raise an eyebrow, makes the above quote kind of funny. Really, when using the standards of the quote, what does that mean for the Irish? | | | Edited: October 21, 2009 @ 06:02 | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | Electric_Banana said:
Dood, I'm a white hetrosexual male and society has never let me ascend past the glass ceiling so I'm not sure if racism is what is holding alot of us back. =L
Never claimed as much. Smash it anyway! | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | crazylikeafox said:
I went to the store and will now give you my observations. 1st, I didn't notice the part of the article where the store said they took down the shirts, which coincides with what I saw. However, I DID see 1 shirt hidden amongst other shirts on a rack (probably missed by the employees). It wasn't any of the 1's in the story, but you could probably call it a bit insensitive "Proud member of the Fahkahre Tribe. We're the Fahkahre." (message on the shirt). However, I also saw a shirt with the picture of 19th century Indians holding guns with the caption "fighting terrorism since 1776" on it, so at most they're sending mixed messages. The next thing I found interesting completely clashes with this quote from the article.
In reality, I found 3 shirts depicting the Irish as a bunch of drunks. Depending on your interpretation, 1 of them could be seen as calling them violent as well. The fact the Indian shirts caused some controversy even though you have to hunt to find them, and 1 of them was from their point of view, and the Irish shirts will likely never even raise an eyebrow, makes the above quote kind of funny. Really, when using the standards of the quote, what does that mean for the Irish?
It means it is wrong. Those shirts should be removed as well. | | |
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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | shinobinoz said:
It means it is wrong. Those shirts should be removed as well.
Well I agree with that. I don't know if it's because I know the long history of discrimination against the Irish, or just common sense (maybe both), but I felt the shirts went a little too far myself. Still, it means the part I quoted isn't quite accurate, since very few people would care about the racism in the Irish shirts. | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | rocket48 said:
Why can't people find some amusement in their lives? I had a T-shirt that said, "My Belly sticks out farther than my d***ie Do". It was a d***ie brand name.
Laugh at life, quit b****ing about someone hurt my feelings. Did we castrate ourselves with all this political correctness bulls***? Grow a pair and enjoy life. If I were Native Indian (I do have some red blood ion me), I would wear a shirt like that proudly. As Crazy noted about the Irish, I know many Irish people that poke fun at themselves.
Racism is ignorant but unless it provokes physical harm, this is where I say " get over it". Sticks and stones is what is all about.
That is a very sad way to look at racism rocket.
Reservations epxerience the highest mortality rates for youth and suicide in the entire nation. High drug and alcohol use. It all goes hand in hand with no jobs and low self esteem. Think those shirts help our Indian youth with their self image?
Shame that ANYONE can think that way in this day and age. | | |
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rocket48
Über Master Debater 7922 points


49/NA/, Texas Join Date: Jun 2009 | shinobinoz said:
That is a very sad way to look at racism rocket.
Reservations epxerience the highest mortality rates for youth and suicide in the entire nation. High drug and alcohol use. It all goes hand in hand with no jobs and low self esteem. Think those shirts help our Indian youth with their self image?
Shame that ANYONE can think that way in this day and age.
Shino, I think you know me now. I hate racism just like you and everyone else. I do have to put on my rose colored glasses and shrug some of this s*** off and make jokes, and try not to take everything so serious, If I don't do that, you would see me posting more in the mental health threads asking how I can get on anti-depressives.
We all deal with things differently, and this is how I deal with racism. Our youth, regardless of race, have so much more to deal with than we ever did. They have no guidance, they have no principles and very little morals to live up to. Self esteem? Hell, I had absolutely no self esteem as a youngster and suicide never crossed my mind. High alcohol and drug use? I used to eat quayludes and mandrax like they were candy and smoked pot and snorted cocaine and drank whiskey by the time I was 18. You have to remember it was the 70's. We all lived through the times and we never held other people accountable for what we did. | | |
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