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 May 08, 2008 @ 03:06:59 | #23 | odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | jonnythan said:
It is?
If you can find anything like this that's happened in, say, the US or Canada in the past 10 years, I'll be surprised.
To say that fathers regularly imprison their daughters in a subterranean dungeon and father multiple children through raping her repeatedly is, forgive me, a little insane.
Welcome to Canada.
Robert Pickton
I'd 'take my life' to have women alive, Pickton says
This story includes disturbing details
Last Updated: Thursday, January 25, 2007 | 12:33 AM ET
CBC News
Robert William Pickton said he would give up his life to bring back the women he's accused of killing and that he just "wants to die" in a videotaped police interview watched by the jury Wednesday.
For a second day, jurors in the courtroom in New Westminster, B.C., listened to the videotaped police interrogation with Pickton, conducted shortly after he was arrested in February 2002.
Robert Pickton, shown in a sketch while in B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster on Wednesday, watches a police video of himself being questioned about missing women following his arrest in February 2002.Robert Pickton, shown in a sketch while in B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster on Wednesday, watches a police video of himself being questioned about missing women following his arrest in February 2002.
(Felicity Don/Canadian Press)
Pickton, on trial on six counts of first-degree murder, said in the interview that he's "a plain little farm boy" and had nothing to do with the deaths of several missing Vancouver women.
Pickton, 57, is being tried in the deaths of Sereena Abotsway, Mona Wilson, Andrea Joesbury, Marnie Frey, Georgina Papin and Brenda Wolfe, who all disappeared from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.
Pickton also faces another 20 first-degree murder charges involving missing women, which will be dealt with at a separate trial. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges, none of which have been proven in court.
Throughout the videotape, Pickton insisted that he had nothing to do with their deaths.
At one point in the tape, Pickton told RCMP Sgt. Bill Fordy that he bought broken-down cars at Vancouver Police Department auctions and searched them for valuables.
He said that he sometimes found women's belongings, such as bras and blouses.
An inhaler was also mentioned in the interview, but Pickton said he knew nothing about it. Earlier in the week, the prosecution told the jury an inhaler was discovered on Pickton's property, and that it belonged to Abotsway.
'I didn't do that': Pickton says of dead woman
Pickton also spoke about taking a woman from his farm to the bus depot and giving her $100.
When Fordy told him the woman was dead, Pickton replied, "I didn't do that. I didn't."
The questioning also turned to Wilson. Fordy told Pickton her blood was found on a mattress on his property.
"That doesn't mean I did it," replied Pickton.
The police officer said: "Your DNA is with Wilson's. You two are tied together through DNA."
Pickton replies: "I don't know her."
Fordy showed Pickton a videotaped statement by a man known as Dwayne Scott Chubb, someone Pickton said he had known for years.
"Is that Scott?" he asked repeatedly.
He asked Fordy whether Chubb was going to give evidence and then told the officer he wanted to return to his cell.
Fordy refused. Pickton said he felt sick in the knowledge he was being charged with two murders, and he could not get over Chubb's statement to police.
Pickton insists he's 'plain little farm boy'
Pickton told the officer that he owns a gun, but then said he shouldn't be talking, adding: "I'm just a plain little farm boy."
At that point, Pickton was crying, and pointed to photos of the missing women.
"I'm sorry for living, and ah, you know if I can, I'll take my life for any one of those people … just to have them alive," he said.
Fordy continued to push, telling him there was a freight train of evidence building against him, including DNA, body parts and witnesses.
'I'm sorry for living, and ah, you know if I can, I'll take my life for any one of those people … just to have them alive' -Robert William Pickton
He urged Pickton to confess, saying he would feel better.
Pickton gave his most animated responses when Fordy mentioned that he was on the front page of every newspaper in the country.
Pickton responded, "I'm in the paper today?"
He also referred to the newspaper coverage again later on: "So my picture's all over the front page? I never did anything."
Later, Fordy leaves the interrogation room and is replaced by Const. Dana Lillies, a female officer who had spoken to Pickton a week before his arrest.
"I should be on death row. I'm finished. I'm finished. I'm dead," he said. But he continued to deny he had anything to do with the women's death.
Lillies told him that since he was going to go to jail, he should tell the truth.
Pickton responded: "I want to die."
Shown images of missing women
In an earlier part of the interview, shown Tuesday, Pickton was shown a poster board with the faces of 48 missing Vancouver women.
Fordy walked Pickton through each one, asking if he recognized any of them.
Pickton leaned forward to see them more closely. Several times, he said "she's pretty" about a woman, but denied knowing any of them.
When asked whether he had killed the missing women, Pickton was insistent, saying, "I don't know anything about it. I'm just a pig man."
He said he was being set up on murder allegations.
Pickton recalls pet, former fiancée
Fordy spent a lot of time early in the interview talking about Pickton's childhood, establishing that he was close with his mother, but not his father.
The biggest show of emotion from the accused came when he spoke about a childhood pet, a calf he had when he was about 12.
He said he would often sleep with the calf, and appeared to become emotional when recalling how he came home one day to find the calf had been slaughtered. Pickton said he didn't speak for four days, adding that the incident made him realize life was fleeting.
Pickton also told Fordy he had a pen pal named Connie when he was about 24, and that they became engaged when he went to Michigan to meet her.
But her parents wouldn't let her leave home and he couldn't leave the pig farm, he said, so the relationship ended.
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| May 08, 2008 @ 03:13:11 | #24 | odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | Robert Pickton: "I'm just a pigman."
David Carrigg , CanWest News Service
Published: Tuesday, January 23, 2007
NEW WESTMINSTER, B.C. - Jurors in the trial of accused ma** murderer Robert Pickton listened to several hours of a police interview with the pig farmer today.
Pickton, who was sitting in the corner of the police interview room a day after he was arrested in Feb. 2002, denied knowledge of murders or missing women, saying "I'm just a pigman."
He said the charges against him were "hogwash" and that he may have been "set up".
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Pickton's admissions during the interview ranged from his favourite meat being pork to the fact he has had sex with several prostitutes, including a red-head called Roxanne.
The first session of court this morning was delayed when the Crown was unable to play the tape after the sound stopped altogether, prompting a chuckle from Pickton.
Justice James Williams seemed unimpressed by the delay. After 20 minutes, the broadcast of the tape continued.
Pickton said he was engaged to a tall, blond American woman named Connie Anderson after a pen-pal relationship progressed to a visit to her in Michigan.
Anderson, he said, was "very nice, five-foot-eleven, nice body, nice, 140 pounds."
Anderson wanted him to stay, but he had to return to the farm and she couldn't leave her job, he said.
"She was supposed to come up but she never did," Pickton said. "Shit happens."
When pressed to discuss friendship, Pickton told Sgt. Bill Fordy that he had a lot of friends, and he'd always stand by them, even if they stole from him.
"If they're in a jam I'll help them out," Pickton said. "Some day maybe they'll help me."
Pickton indicated his working tools had been stolen.
He said he and his mother, who died of brain cancer in 1979, were "two peas in a pod," and he was closer to her than to his father.
He said the worst things that happened to him was when he was stabbed in 1997 and when he was "torn apart" by two pigs.
Later in the tape, Pickton became emotional.
He said there's "nothing" he likes about the farm and wants to get out of the business.
Pickton estimates he has slaughtered as many as 10,000 pigs.
The police officer tells Pickton how "massive" the police investigation is and how many experts have been brought in to examine the farm.
He also explains at length to Pickton what DNA is.
Pickton responds by saying "I'm just a pig farmer."
He also asks the officer if touching a person would leave DNA.
Pickton seems shocked when the officer says the farm will be investigated for a year and asks what they are looking for. At that point he is slumped to the side of his chair.
The interviewer then takes a tougher stance with Pickton, saying "maybe you killed more, maybe you killed less."
Pickton was then shown a large placard with the faces of Vancouver's dozens of missing women and asked if he knew them.
"So many people come in and out of my place," he said. "I don't know."
Pickton noted some of the girls were "pretty."
He said he was "101 per cent" sure he had never had sex with any of the women.
Pickton also said he bought old cars from the Vancouver Police Department.
On Monday, the jury heard devastating facts in the case that includes the discovery on the farm of the decapitated and bisected heads, plus the hands and feet, of Sereena Abotsway, Andrea Joesbury and Mona Wilson.
The jaw of Brenda Wolfe, hand bones from Georgina Papin and teeth from Marnie Frey.
Pickton does not deny that the women's remains were found on the farm. He denies he killed the women.
The Crown said police also recovered a jacket in Pickton's trailer containing an address book belonging to Joesbury; a jacket in Pickton's motor home containing a crack-pipe belonging to Wilson; and a .22 revolver with a sex toy on it that had DNA from both Pickton and Wilson. A duffel bag was also found containing a gun, ammunition, leg irons and handcuffs with Wolfe's DNA on them.
Investigators also recovered Wilson's DNA from blood splatter on the walls and mattress of a broken-down motor home on the Pickton farm.
Investigators also recovered heel and hand bones that had a DNA match with a human skull found in Mission in 1985, court heard.
The jury was also told Pickton allegedly told an undercover cop that he killed 49 women and planned to "make it an even 50."
Pickton is charged in the deaths of 26 Vancouver prostitutes. He is currently being tried on six of those counts relating to Joesbury, Wilson, Abotsway, Marnie Frey, Georgina Papin and Brenda Wolfe.
* Johnathon: just because you always need facts.
and if you still need more, google 'Paul Bernardo.'
that one will really get your mind straight.
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| May 08, 2008 @ 03:35:33 | #27 | odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | mark_is_god said:
how are those in any way, similar to what this Austrian man did?
Josef Fritzl didn't kill anyone, he imprisoned his own daughter and raped her.
did you google Paul Bernardo & read what he did to his victims?
No, this particular story hasn't happened here....yet, but cmon, what pig-man did to torture and kill woman that way?
I am truly devasted at what this girl must have gone thru, don't ever get me wrong, that news was out 2 weeks ago and we were all deathly sickened by this creature.
This now woman, will never ever get over this in her entire lifetime.........hand the bastard by his balls!
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| May 08, 2008 @ 03:44:35 | #29 | mark_is_god
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Join Date: Aug 2006 | odie said:
did you google Paul Bernardo & read what he did to his victims?
No, this particular story hasn't happened here....yet, but cmon, what pig-man did to torture and kill woman that way?
I am truly devasted at what this girl must have gone thru, don't ever get me wrong, that news was out 2 weeks ago and we were all deathly sickened by this creature.
This now woman, will never ever get over this in her entire lifetime.........hand the bastard by his balls!
just Googled him.
raped and killed people.
as vile as these two story's are, they are not altogether that similar to this austrian story.
the only link i can see is rape, but there are dozens of differences.
Josef Fritzl committed the crimes against family, the other two didn't.
Josef Fritzl imprisoned his daughter (and her children) for many years, the other two didn't
Josef Fritzl didn't kill, the other two did
Josef Fritzl knew his victims, the other two didn't
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It is really sad to know that a sick person like that really exist. Hope this won't happen to anybody I know. 
