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 Feb 12, 2008 @ 03:53:43 | #139 | torrentwolves
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Join Date: Jan 2008 | crazychica said:
Ah. You made the claim, it's your duty to prove it, not his to disprove it. You must present the first evidence, then he will present his, if he has any or even needs to.
I can't prove it. I don't have physical evidence, no one does.
He doesn't have to provide any evidence or argument against my case because I don't have any to support it. All anyone has to do to win an argument against an alien conspiracy is say the words "prove it". That's the bottom line.
Doesn't mean I didn't see something. (Or doesn't mean I didn't believe something, regardless of whether or not I saw something)
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| Feb 12, 2008 @ 22:16:16 | #142 | torrentwolves
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Join Date: Jan 2008 | crazychica said:
Even video or documentary evidence would be appropriate, but would need verification.
Even video evidence could be subject to heavy scrutiny by the hardest of skeptics. Some people just cannot be persuaded and some people refuse to believe.
I cannot possibly fathom the evidence required to change the perspective of millions of people world-wide. There are far more intense issues at hand that I can choose devote my time, such as global warming or conservation of rainforests, things that would do a certain justice to the people of Earth.
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And this topic isn't about my personal experiences, it's about the Phoenix Lights... which have been video taped and photographed for over 10 years now. The footage is there, but what evidence does it provide? None.
They're either flares or a flying craft. The US Air Force has a certain "sway" in the subject... but they are also the most likely candidate to fabricate a response to the public, for the public.
As I've seen from the people in AZ, it's down the middle. Half believe nothing is going on, half believe the military (and subsequently the government) is hiding something. Even with the credibility of the Air Force backing the "flares" story, people find reason not to believe (or rather, to believe.)
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| Apr 23, 2008 @ 03:50:40 | #147 | torrentwolves
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Join Date: Jan 2008 | Lights over Phoenix return, Monday April 21st, 2008!
link [www.firstcoastnews.com]
link [www.upi.com]
And a page with video witness reports:
link [www.latimes.com]
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Okay, so this time, an "official" of Luke Air Force Base claims that the lights were NOT produced by any air force activity and they had no planes in the sky that night.
Air traffic controllers attempted to make contact and no response was made and they could not explain what the lights were caused by...
There has been NO official explanation for the lights in the sky... and this has been going on for over a decade now.
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More video:
Best footage!
Home footage with commentary by viewers:
link [www.youtube.com]
(This video sounds like a bad movie, but I believe it to be authentic... listen to the little girl. Also, watch the two inner, bottom lights at 2:05, just after the little girl mentions "warning signs", the two lights will move independently toward and away from each other.)
News coverage:
link [www.youtube.com]
Lights caught on film:
link [www.youtube.com]
Cell phone footage with commentary from onlookers outside Fry's supermarket:
link [www.youtube.com]
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It would need to come from a reliable source. Or be authenticated. Otherwise it can't stand as evidence.
