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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:20:21

curiouskat

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Did they really exist or is it all just a fairytale?

The only info i can find on them comes from Wiki or different religious sites, so im thinking i have nothing factual to work with here, what do you guys think??

Is their any proof of their existance that anyone knows of?

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:24:20

Hazuki0chan

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watch the history channel or something of that sort if you can... they sometimes show documentaries about these historic figures. They did exist, though.

Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:27:23

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Hazuki0chan said:

watch the history channel or something of that sort if you can... they sometimes show documentaries about these historic figures. They did exist, though.

They did?

Woo hoo, i was devasted when someone just told me it was all a fairytale, i had thought they did in fact exist..

Thanx

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:27:38

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yea, the History Channel had something on them not too long ago. It's interesting. you can probably find books too.

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:30:24

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curiouskat said:

They did?

Woo hoo, i was devasted when someone just told me it was all a fairytale, i had thought they did in fact exist..

Thanx

some people may say they didn't exist because they were basically walking billboards of death of religious propaganda... Christianity of course. They are the ones who wanted to "take back" the holy land from the Muslims.

Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:34:17

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Hazuki0chan said:

some people may say they didn't exist because they were basically walking billboards of death of religious propaganda... Christianity of course. They are the ones who wanted to "take back" the holy land from the Muslims.

Oh, so they were actually bad guys???

LOL, there goes my relief again, quick that was

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:36:11

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It's historical fact that they did exist. Tangible evidence exists. They basically started modern banking.

The conspiracy theories come in after they were purged. That they persisted as some sort of secret society for centuries. That's pretty much bulls***.

But they were an acknowledged, well-known military unit for some time during the middle ages.

Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:37:12

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curiouskat said:

Oh, so they were actually bad guys???

LOL, there goes my relief again, quick that was

depends on your beliefs. To the Muslims, yes. To the Christians, no.

This was when religion was pretty much the main reason for war. We just study them today as historical figures.

I think you'd get better results in your research if you look up the Crusades.

Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:47:46

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Hazuki0chan said:

depends on your beliefs. To the Muslims, yes. To the Christians, no.

This was when religion was pretty much the main reason for war. We just study them today as historical figures.

I think you'd get better results in your research if you look up the Crusades.

Ah yes, of course, thankyou very much for your help xo

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:49:18

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curiouskat said:

Ah yes, of course, thankyou very much for your help xo

no prob

Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:49:20

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the Templar existed and controlled so much money that eventually the pope excommunicated them they were the financiers of kings at points.

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:58:27

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Yeah, they really existed.

In fact, one of the many reasons Friday the 13th is considered an "unlucky" day is related to them: October 13, 1307 was the day the Knights were arrested in France, and subsequently tortured and burned at the stake for heresy.

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 04:59:45

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jonnythan said:

It's historical fact that they did exist. Tangible evidence exists. They basically started modern banking.

The conspiracy theories come in after they were purged. That they persisted as some sort of secret society for centuries. That's pretty much bulls***.

But they were an acknowledged, well-known military unit for some time during the middle ages.

goblinthegoblin said:

the Templar existed and controlled so much money that eventually the pope excommunicated them they were the financiers of kings at points.

Sure, thats pretty much how i read it, they had aquired such great wealth and strength that certain ppl felt threatened by them.
The King put pressure on the Pope to have them excommunicated due to apparent 'devil worship' within their group, that was meant to have been all fabricated evidence anyway.

Im glad to hear im not the only one who thought this was all true, i have a bad habit of taking everything i read as fact, a dangerous game on the net

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 05:54:55

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They were no more "the bad guys" than any other group of their time. It's just important not to romanticise any particular side, and take everything in context. The Templers were really powerful, so a possibly bigger "bad guy" - the church of the time - destroyed them.

They were probably as "good" as any large powerful society in those times could be really

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Sep 02, 2009 @ 09:39:37

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According to one of my grandkids, (therefore it must be true,

Post #11 has the basic truth of the Templars. They built castles, which one can go see if one has a mind to, in Europe and the Middle East, so they must have had large resources in labor and capital. The standard histories of banking don't mention Templars, so maybe they were not bankers in the modern since. Their power threatened the Pope. That was somehow the reason for their destruction, and that could be related to the fact that they don't have a place in our politically correct history.

Edited: September 02, 2009 @ 09:40

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