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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 12:16:13#91
raditz8526

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Ghandi is just another hippie in a toga. lol


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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 16:19:21#92
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I am torn on this topic.

It was a terrible thing that these kids did, they should be punished, severly, but I dont know if death would be the answer.

I am a thirty odd year old rock fan who has now got short hair. The abuse I suffered from scum like these boys was constant at school and I sympathise with the Goths of today.

Now I see kids like these two picking on anyone who is different and in some cases the same but of rival gangs. Why are these kids doing this? Perhaps we need to be looking at what the hell were doing in our society that allows this.

I think what enrages me about this case was that the girl and boy who were assaulted were doing nothing wrong, they were not picking a fight, they just talked to some other kids in their play park.

Punishment? I wish we could make these little scum bags see what they have done, the damage they have caused. But instead they will live for 18 years or so in a relativley comfortable enviroment and come out hardened criminals. Now that is the tragedy here that poor girl died for nothing!

I quote Babylon5

Garibaldi "I'm an eye for an eye kinda guy"
Delen " so you would live in a world where no had eyes or teeth Mr Garibaldi?"

Wish I could give some answers, stock in the public square? Or would we be as bad as they are then?

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 16:22:41#93
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18 years in prison is quite a severe punishment, its what they deserve, not death.


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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 16:41:25#94
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alexkidd said:
18 years in prison is quite a severe punishment, its what they deserve, not death.


I hope you get to be on my jury if I ever kill someone. lol


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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 16:54:51#95
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treebee said:
Ghandi said if you take an eye for an eye then everyone will end up blind. He also said that crime is a disease and should be treated as such.


Exactly, and to be fair he had a point. Obviously the whole situation is horrible but just killing the murderers wouldn't help anyone, the kids were obviously not mentally all there at the time, so maybe 18 years is long enough for them to get the help they need and repent for what they did. Bearing in kind that when they come out of prison they will probably carry around the guilt of that night for the rest of their lives, and that is as much, if not more of a punishment than just locking them up for a while. Besides what kind of point would we be saying if it was is wrong for people to kill and then saying that others should be killed? Tis a bit hypocritical really.


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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 20:07:16#96
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not mentally all there? the knew full well that by kicking someone hard in the head several times is gonna have lasting damage or result in death


the above is all meant in the best PAHSSIBLE taste

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 20:09:31#97
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darkshine said:
Try to answer my question before you ask another

I'm still lost by how killing them makes this better in any way?


getting rid of dead head chav twats is doing alot for society


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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 21:11:58#98
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This entire thread is a depressing commentary on how hateful and right-wing so many UK citizens are.

I mean, are people actually serious when they say the offenders should be killed? Hanged, even?

I thought Cumbrians were backwards, turns out the rest of the country is as well.

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 21:20:41#99
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buffalobill90 said:
This entire thread is a depressing commentary on how hateful and right-wing so many UK citizens are.

I mean, are people actually serious when they say the offenders should be killed? Hanged, even?

I thought Cumbrians were backwards, turns out the rest of the country is as well.


im sure you wouldnt be saying that if someone kicked your relative to s**t though just because there hair colour was different etc.

im glad they got life even though life doesnt mean life in this country but im my opinion and im not saying that its the right one but i think if you take life as cold blooded as they did then maybe the ultimate punishment should be their life taken away from them but that will never happen in the uk so i much rather they be in prison for life and not just for a pathetic 16 years etc!!!!

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 21:31:47#100
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jo08 said:
im sure you wouldnt be saying that if someone kicked your relative to s**t though just because there hair colour was different etc.

im glad they got life even though life doesnt mean life in this country but im my opinion and im not saying that its the right one but i think if you take life as cold blooded as they did then maybe the ultimate punishment should be their life taken away from them but that will never happen in the uk so i much rather they be in prison for life and not just for a pathetic 16 years etc!!!!



And I'm sure that if you had to spend more than a decade of your life in prison you would appreciate how hard it is.

Justice does not (or should not) equate with bloodthirsty revenge. It should be solely concerned with reconditioning offenders so that they do not cause further suffering. And that is extremely difficult when society offers no forgiveness.
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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 22:05:03#101
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As I've said before, not all cases are so clear-cut. If you can't be absolutely 100% sure that someone commited the murder and that forensic evidence won't, in say 5-10 years, prove said innocence, then how can you allow them to be killed for it? Also, it's taking away human rights. I know I always say that criminals should lose some human rights when they commit the crime, I usually don't include the right to life. humanrightsact1998

And also, most people don't realise how much damage a couple of kicks to the head can actually do, especially if they're in a frenzy and didn't pay attention in biology


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And even more so while I'm standing tall.

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New Post! May 02, 2008 @ 22:38:50#102
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i dont think prisons hard enough on people at all. it should be a s**thouse conditions making you not want to go back at all rather than the nice clean, 3 meals a day, tv to a room place it actually is. HMP ritz comes to mind


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New Post! May 05, 2008 @ 05:58:55#103
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darkshine said:
I think it was a fair punishment.

I feel for the girl and her family, yes. But if you'd notice these guys aren't
men; they're kids.

Kids do stupid, stupid s**t and in 18 years, I don't think they'll be the same
as they are today.

And at this:


So a civilised society that hangs 15 year olds and broadcasts it?

You're all incredibly hypocritical in this.

An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind. Human rights are there
to protect everyone, regardless of what they've done.

On that note, I'm glad they got a hefty sentence and I'm glad that this will
hopefully be an example to other idiots like themselves.



well they have to learn somewhere!
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New Post! May 08, 2008 @ 11:18:08#104
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Yes your all correct life SHOULD be life BUT .....

I've heard/listened to SO many Emo/GOth types who are intent on 'the world hates them, so they are going to kill themselves' .....


Don't talk whilst i'm interrupting

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New Post! May 09, 2008 @ 00:43:38#105
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the way i see it if you commit a crime that violates an individuals human rights then they forfit their human rights. stringt 'em up in the city centre and let the necrophiles have them

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