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New Post! Jun 11, 2007 @ 07:31:09#31
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exactly, its all very well to go "oh thats stupid or disgusting" but thats burying your head in the sand. Face it, at the moment we patch them up, send them home and they cut it all open again.

You have to get to the root of the problem and you have to give them alternatives which will not cause as much damage to them.


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New Post! Jun 11, 2007 @ 07:32:10#32
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I guess it could help, it's like smoking. For a lot of people it's extremely difficult to just stop cold turkey. Some people can, but a lot can't. It could be the same way for cutters.




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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:13:15#33
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treebee said:
See I have never done that, wrong generation, but because i see it daily i realise how big an issue it is. It is like a new form of release instead of turning to drugs or drink


it is a release. i been a cutter n kinda going back..
you'd have to actually understand.
as the main point of this thread was the thing in the hostpital.
would it just be to understand better? like research?
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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:14:38#34
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court20 said:
it is a release. i been a cutter n kinda going back..
you'd have to actually understand.
as the main point of this thread was the thing in the hostpital.
would it just be to understand better? like research?


yeah, personal expirience fills you in better, but don't do it to know. But its foolish to think that will last you


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:19:43#35
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Patients who self-harm are being allowed to do so under supervision in hospital in an innovative scheme.

The practice is being allowed as part of a six-month investigation into the care of people who self-harm at St George's Hospital, Stafford.

Patients are allowed to carry on cutting themselves, but are also offered substitutes such as holding ice cubes or wearing tight elastic bands. link [news.bbc.co.uk]

What do you think?


Seems like about as good as an idea as allowing heroin addicts to continue shooting up.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:21:00#36
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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:21:37#37
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Same to you... Fatty.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:22:44#38
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Same to you. Its just not a good idea to self harm or use any anti depressants. Its not sane or healthy and it postpones and distracts you from the problem


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:23:10#39
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Whatever.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:23:37#40
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Alright than


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 06:37:07#41
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i used to cut.
for alot of reasons...to release...to make sure i was still really alive. it was hard but i got counseling and now i'm okay...i haven't cut since. you have to fix the main problem and find other [healthy]ways to deal with your issues so it doesn't happen again.
i mean...i still think about it sometimes...i still have tendancies to think the way i did before...because it's like i've always said "once a cutter, always a cutter".
i'll forever be known as a cutter to the ones who know. and i'll always have the scars to remind me of my past...

but using people as lab rats...only for "research"? thats kinda sickening...
honestly, its kind of arrogant of them.
i personally think it will do no good. instead they should offer counseling.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 07:38:21#42
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But nurse Chris Holley, who is running the St George's project, says taking away someone's ability to self-harm takes away their method of coping, increasing traumatic feelings - and potentially increasing the risk that they will attempt suicide.

She outlined the scheme at the Royal College of Nursing European Mental Health conference in Belfast last week.

Ms Holley said the team of staff talk to each patient about where, when and how they injure themselves, in addition to offering them psychotherapy.

Patients are not given knives or razors, but are allowed to continue injuring themselves if they are already using those methods.

They may also be offered ice cubes - said to give the same sensation as cutting - or elastic bands which they can flick or wear tightly around their wrists.

Patients are also given advice on how to avoid becoming infected through their cuts.

She said: "We have a duty of care, but there is a difference between that and taking a Big Brother approach."

from the original article, so its not using them as lab rats, they are offering psychological support.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 07:42:42#43
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But nurse Chris Holley, who is running the St George's project, says taking away someone's ability to self-harm takes away their method of coping, increasing traumatic feelings - and potentially increasing the risk that they will attempt suicide.

She outlined the scheme at the Royal College of Nursing European Mental Health conference in Belfast last week.

Ms Holley said the team of staff talk to each patient about where, when and how they injure themselves, in addition to offering them psychotherapy.

Patients are not given knives or razors, but are allowed to continue injuring themselves if they are already using those methods.

They may also be offered ice cubes - said to give the same sensation as cutting - or elastic bands which they can flick or wear tightly around their wrists.

Patients are also given advice on how to avoid becoming infected through their cuts.

She said: "We have a duty of care, but there is a difference between that and taking a Big Brother approach."

from the original article, so its not using them as lab rats, they are offering psychological support.


good. i'm glad their offering that kind of help. it's really important. still...somehow it seems...kinda wrong.


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 07:44:02#44
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treebee said:
But nurse Chris Holley, who is running the St George's project, says taking away someone's ability to self-harm takes away their method of coping, increasing traumatic feelings - and potentially increasing the risk that they will attempt suicide.

She outlined the scheme at the Royal College of Nursing European Mental Health conference in Belfast last week.

Ms Holley said the team of staff talk to each patient about where, when and how they injure themselves, in addition to offering them psychotherapy.

Patients are not given knives or razors, but are allowed to continue injuring themselves if they are already using those methods.

They may also be offered ice cubes - said to give the same sensation as cutting - or elastic bands which they can flick or wear tightly around their wrists.

Patients are also given advice on how to avoid becoming infected through their cuts.

She said: "We have a duty of care, but there is a difference between that and taking a Big Brother approach."

from the original article, so its not using them as lab rats, they are offering psychological support.


I agree with that selfharm is release
But I can't agree self harm is the answer, anyone with common sense can see that. Maybe instead of mutilating themselves, they should be in therapy to confront there problems


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New Post! Jun 16, 2007 @ 07:45:36#45
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negasable said:
I agree with that selfharm is release
But I can't agree self harm is the answer, anyone with common sense can see that. Maybe instead of mutilating themselves, they should be in therapy to confront there problems


yeah thats what it says, they are encouraged to use ice cubes and rubber bands alongside therapy, so the point is they will get to the root of the problem and eventually stop.


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