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craftyk
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24/F/Savannah, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2008 | raditz8526 said: Then what's the big deal? 
It's not recognized meaning that the couple would have none of the rights that married couples have (tax benefits, the ability to make healthcare decisions, ability to handle and benefit from probate proceedings, etc.).
A couple could say that they were married, and be married in their hearts, but if the government does not recognize it, then they run into a world of issues. Brief example: Bob and Jim are a couple. Bob dies unexpectedly with no will. Bob and Jim had lived together as a married couple for 10 years, but only Bob's name was on the deed to their house for tax purposes. So, when Bob died, the house is automatically bequeathed to his nearest living relative (in most states in the US...not sure on other probate proceedures). If he's not legally married, that would be any children he may have, or his parents, or aunts, uncles, etc. Anyone but Jim, who is not legally a relative. Jim would be out on the curb.
Yes, it should be legal. There's no logical reason for it not to be. |  | |
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raditz8526
Monk
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Join Date: Mar 2006 | craftyk said:
It's not recognized meaning that the couple would have none of the rights that married couples have (tax benefits, the ability to make healthcare decisions, ability to handle and benefit from probate proceedings, etc.).
A couple could say that they were married, and be married in their hearts, but if the government does not recognize it, then they run into a world of issues. Brief example: Bob and Jim are a couple. Bob dies unexpectedly with no will. Bob and Jim had lived together as a married couple for 10 years, but only Bob's name was on the deed to their house for tax purposes. So, when Bob died, the house is automatically bequeathed to his nearest living relative (in most states in the US...not sure on other probate proceedures). If he's not legally married, that would be any children he may have, or his parents, or aunts, uncles, etc. Anyone but Jim, who is not legally a relative. Jim would be out on the curb.
Yes, it should be legal. There's no logical reason for it not to be.
He should have made a will.  | | | |
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vaboom
Über-General
748 points
20/F/Oakland,
Join Date: Mar 2008 | <The Bible says love does not rejoice in iniquity. It also says, "Love does a neighbor no harm" (like enticing one's neighbor into sinful acts. There's also the love of pedophiles for innocent children, which we know is wrong.>
If you happen to read the whole chapter: “Love does a neighbor no harm” is saying to love your neighbor… duh! It does not say anything about sinful acts, it says LOVE everyone! And yes, everyone does include homosexuals.
You keep quoting the bible, but you seem to forget that we have a separation of church and state. Do you recognize that?
Aside from what the Bible says, (I could go on for hours about how people misinterpret it) do you really believe that two people (any two people) should not be able to be united and recognized as "married" by the government for any reason? Straight people marry even when they are not in love, can't homosexuals do it too? We are not talking about religion, we are talking about human rights, which do not and will never coincide with each other.
<We try not to but then there's the gay pride parades, gays trying to ram their unbiblical agenda down school children's throats; gays trying to ram their agenda down the throats of Boy Scouts; gays trying to subvert the traditions of America, and a hundred other things like that. Maybe they shouldn't think about it. I'd be more than happy to never hear about "gay this" or "gay that" ever again.>
Gay Pride parades do not even begin to ram anything down anyones throats. These parades are held to show their PRIDE, remember people who died from AIDS, and to commemorate the Stone Wall Riots, and most importantly, to inform people and promote open-mindedness of homosexuality. All of which are very valid and valuable points to present to people in a peaceful way.
Do we need to get on the subject of religious peoples’ ways of expressing themselves and parading their biblical bull s**t to the masses? Everywhere I go, I see a billboard or a sign that is telling you to accept Jesus into your life, or telling me I’m going to burn in hell if I don’t accept “the faith”. Missionaries try to convert people all the time, paying no heed to people who already have beliefs of their own, and telling them they are wrong. This is what I call CRAMMING YOUR BELIEFS DOWN MY THROAT! I have never had a homosexual try to convert me, I have never had a homosexual tell me what I believed was wrong, and I have never had a homosexual tell me if I don't convert to homosexuality then something bad will happen to me. Any billboard or sign I see regarding homosexuality only asks people to be open-minded, and not to hate. In my opinion, homosexuality is more moral and open-minded than religion.
Homosexual marriage should and will be legalized. Marriage is not a religious union, it is a union controlled by the government, which is supposed to have nothing to do with religious beliefs. Homosexuals are people too, and no matter what their reason is to want to be married, they should have the right to do so, as any other human being should. If we don’t grant them this right, then we might as well take away their right to have a job, pay taxes, buy a home, have insurance, and participate in stock exchange; all of which are also government controlled unions.
In my opinion, people who think otherwise are ignorant and prejudice. And no matter what race, religion, sex, creed, or color you are, ignorance and prejudice is WRONG!
...life doesn't begin until you start living it...
So don't be sad when I speak my mind! | | | |
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