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sTreetAngeL
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#31New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 16:40:40
@PrinceMonolulu Said

Dont see how them being lesbian has anything to do with this law needing reconsidering, straight couples use sperm doners too.



Well for one thing, the lay 'usually' sides with the mother. The child has two of them in this case.
On May 18, 2013
Jennifer1984
Olympic Junkie





Penzance, United Kingdom
#32New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 16:45:30
@hoppy Said

I didn't say there was a difference, I said there would be more of them, exactly.



Custody battle between estranged couple. Shocker.


Tut, Hoppy.... this really is a non-issue unless you happen to be either one of the estranged women, or the child.

Still, if you think it's some sort of stick to beat lesbian couples with, you go right on ahead. <rolls eyes upwards and shakes head sadly>


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On August 17, 2012
Jennifer1984
Olympic Junkie





Penzance, United Kingdom
#33New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 16:54:08
@alk1975 Said



I love the arguments against homosexuality. They are like holey buckets. All you have to do is pick a place where the water is pouring out and point.



It's always good to see a new analogy for this sort of homophobia, that shows it for what it is, Alk. I hadn't seen this particular one before.

I hope you won't mind me nicking it and putting it up on other sites that I frequent. I rather like it and it sums up this branch of homophobic practice quite succinctly.

Thanks for sharing. xx

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On August 17, 2012
alk1975




Jackson, Missouri
#34New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 17:37:48
@Jennifer1984 Said

It's always good to see a new analogy for this sort of homophobia, that shows it for what it is, Alk. I hadn't seen this particular one before.

I hope you won't mind me nicking it and putting it up on other sites that I frequent. I rather like it and it sums up this branch of homophobic practice quite succinctly.

Thanks for sharing. xx

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No problem. enjoy.
On about 18 hours ago
LuckyCharms
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#35New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 19:56:31
And this is different from any other custody case how?

Just because there are two mothers instead of a mother and a father?

If anything, this may serve as a good step in defining how custody battles are resolved. Often times the father gets the shaft. It would be nice to actually have custody based on something besides gender.
On about 12 hours ago
someone_else
Not a dude.


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American Alps, Washington
#36New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 20:08:55
@LuckyCharms Said

And this is different from any other custody case how?

Just because there are two mothers instead of a mother and a father?

If anything, this may serve as a good step in defining how custody battles are resolved. Often times the father gets the shaft. It would be nice to actually have custody based on something besides gender.



I'm just going to hop on your coat tail because it's a good springboard for what I was going to say...nothing personal.

This one in particular is different because one woman supplied the egg and the other woman carried the fetus. Technically, that means that the one who carried is only a surrogate but she didn't sign away her rights like a normal surrogate would (since they're not normally a part of the couple).

That's why they mentioned the rights of sperm and egg donors.

I completely agree with your last point.
On August 30, 2012
LuckyCharms
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#37New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 20:13:03
@someone_else Said

I'm just going to hop on your coat tail because it's a good springboard for what I was going to say...nothing personal.

This one in particular is different because one woman supplied the egg and the other woman carried the fetus. Technically, that means that the one who carried is only a surrogate but she didn't sign away her rights like a normal surrogate would (since they're not normally a part of the couple).

That's why they mentioned the rights of sperm and egg donors.

I completely agree with your last point.



Interesting. That's what I get for not reading the article.

In some ways it changes things but in others not at all. Both have a stake. One genetic and one developmental (what would carrying the baby be called?). Which trumps? One could think of the genetic mother as the father and the one that carried as the mother. As far as roles are defined.

It should make for some interesting case law.
On about 12 hours ago
treebee
Government Hooker

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London, United Kingdom
#38New Post! Mar 05, 2012 @ 20:56:42
8 years old is too old for this sort of s***, the child should be with the person who raised her, unless of course that person has caused her harm.

Goes to show gay people really are the same as straight people doesn't it.
On May 09, 2013
Jennifer1984
Olympic Junkie





Penzance, United Kingdom
#39New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 09:31:17
@treebee Said


Goes to show gay people really are the same as straight people doesn't it.



We've been saying that for years, Treebs.

Personally, I think this should be treated no differently to any other custody issue.

The overriding.... overwhelming criteria above all else should be the needs of the child. I think we would all agree on that.

All other considerations are subject to that overriding principle.


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On August 17, 2012
MAW

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Stockport, United Kingdom
#40New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 10:30:00
@Jennifer1984 Said

We've been saying that for years, Treebs.

Personally, I think this should be treated no differently to any other custody issue.

The overriding.... overwhelming criteria above all else should be the needs of the child. I think we would all agree on that.

All other considerations are subject to that overriding principle.


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Well said!
On October 31, 2012
MAW

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Stockport, United Kingdom
#41New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 10:37:16
Is this just another thread picking on gays?
On October 31, 2012
Jennifer1984
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#42New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 11:26:48
@MAW Said

Is this just another thread picking on gays?



Only by the OP.
On August 17, 2012
BozieFozie
Life's a Beach





Paradise, Florida
#43New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 11:27:25
@MAW Said

Is this just another thread picking on gays?


Considering the OP, I'd have to say yes...
On May 21, 2013
MAW

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Stockport, United Kingdom
#44New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 11:33:12
@BozieFozie Said

Considering the OP, I'd have to say yes...



Those that shout the loudest...
On October 31, 2012
MAW

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Stockport, United Kingdom
#45New Post! Mar 07, 2012 @ 11:34:03
@Jennifer1984 Said

Only by the OP.



Doesn't the OP know it's 2012 and that horse died years ago?
On October 31, 2012
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