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Reasons why Jimi Hendrix shouldnt be #1 guitarist. not even top 50 probably.
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:05:06#31
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Here's what two professional music critics had to say about Hendrix:

"In his brief four-year reign as a superstar, Jimi Hendrix expanded the vocabulary of the electric rock guitar more than anyone before or since. Hendrix was a master at coaxing all manner of unforeseen sonics from his instrument, often with innovative amplification experiments that produced astral-quality feedback and roaring distortion. His frequent hurricane blasts of noise and dazzling showmanship -- he could and would play behind his back and with his teeth and set his guitar on fire -- has sometimes obscured his considerable gifts as a songwriter, singer, and master of a gamut of blues, R&B, and rock styles."

"What caught most people's attention at first was his virtuosic guitar playing, which employed an arsenal of devices, including wah-wah pedals, buzzing feedback solos, crunching distorted riffs, and lightning, liquid runs up and down the scales."

"Hendrix pioneered the use of the studio itself as a recording instrument, manipulating electronics and devising overdub techniques (with the help of engineer Eddie Kramer in particular) to plot uncharted sonic territory."

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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:06:36#32
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pete said:
mhmm well depending on what the root it is, the blues pent will be either major or minor. .


yeah major or minor pentatonic, i was talking about the actual scales, like Major, and Natural Minor, which is the same thing as the the major scale mode Aeolian.
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:09:22#33
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jonnythan said:
Here's what two professional music critics had to say about Hendrix:

"In his brief four-year reign as a superstar, Jimi Hendrix expanded the vocabulary of the electric rock guitar more than anyone before or since. Hendrix was a master at coaxing all manner of unforeseen sonics from his instrument, often with innovative amplification experiments that produced astral-quality feedback and roaring distortion. His frequent hurricane blasts of noise and dazzling showmanship -- he could and would play behind his back and with his teeth and set his guitar on fire -- has sometimes obscured his considerable gifts as a songwriter, singer, and master of a gamut of blues, R&B, and rock styles."

"What caught most people's attention at first was his virtuosic guitar playing, which employed an arsenal of devices, including wah-wah pedals, buzzing feedback solos, crunching distorted riffs, and lightning, liquid runs up and down the scales."

"Hendrix pioneered the use of the studio itself as a recording instrument, manipulating electronics and devising overdub techniques (with the help of engineer Eddie Kramer in particular) to plot uncharted sonic territory."


Virtuoso for his time, not of this day though. And YES I AGREE WITH YOU he was probably the most innovative guitarist. But as far as versatility, he really didn't have much at all, how can you be Greatest guitarist if you are stuck in blues and rock which happen to be the simplest forms of music?
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:11:11#34
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christobar said:
Virtuoso for his time, not of this day though. And YES I AGREE WITH YOU he was probably the most innovative guitarist. But as far as versatility, he really didn't have much at all, how can you be Greatest guitarist if you are stuck in blues and rock which happen to be the simplest forms of music?


im starting to think that this isnt the fact he could or couldnt play somthing, its about the fact he didnt have the same style as you
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:14:39#35
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pete said:
im starting to think that this isnt the fact he could or couldnt play somthing, its about the fact he didnt have the same style as you


It is fact that he didnt play anything besides blues rock, listen to his music and you can tell how simplistic his writing style is. And of course he didnt have the same style as me, why would I want to bore myself with blues when all the songs sound very similar and it shows no range? I used to be a huge hendrix fan, i have 3 albums. Then my friend showed me some dream theater and ever since i haven't looked at Hendrix the same way as I once did.
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:14:59#36
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pete said:
im starting to think that this isnt the fact he could or couldnt play somthing, or the fact he didnt have the same style as you

Yup.

Guitarists like Malmsteen and Petrucci have carved out a sort of niche for *extremely* proficient, complex guitar playing. Petrucci is widely recognized as probably the most technically capable guitarist ever along with the likes of Satriani, Vai, etc.

While he is certainly influential, he hasn't done anything *near* what Hendrix did in terms of inspiring musicians, creating new genres of music, and defining what can be done with the instrument. In another 40 years, Hendrix will still be called the greatest guitarist in history, while Petrucci will be recognized as a highly skilled and important - but not revolutionary - player.
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:16:05#37
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christobar said:
why would I want to bore myself with blues when all the songs sound very similar and it shows no range?

I think you would benefit greatly from having a little sit down with BB King.

Trade licks with Mr. King for about 20 minutes and you will come out with a very different opinion of both the genre and of the guitarist
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:18:33#38
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christobar said:
It is fact that he didnt play anything besides blues rock,


thats because its his style, why the hell would he play somthing that isnt his style
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:21:48#39
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pete said:
thats because its his style, why the hell would he play somthing that isnt his style


Ok well petrucci and guitarist like that play outside just one style because they CAN. Hendrix couldn't play outside that, if he could then he would. You can find petrucci playin blues, scottish and irish jigs, classical, and progressive metal. Even all in the same song sometimes. Look up glasgow kiss on you tube. He hits all those things i mentioned except classical.
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I like how if you go to a music forum website where musicians reside that most people actually agree with me. Then you come to the forum site where people just listen to music and then come to conclusions without knowing what they are talking about.

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oh so you now have to know music theory to have an opinion on musicians

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pete said:
oh so you now have to know music theory to have an opinion on musicians


didn't say all those people were experts on music theory. And its fact not opinion that Hendrix has not taken guitar to the next level as guitarist of today have.
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christobar said:
didn't say all those people were experts on music theory. And its fact not opinion that Hendrix has not taken guitar to the next level as guitarist of today have.


so im guessing all those things that where previously posted, like the professional musicians points on what he did with guitar are lieing then
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:55:28#44
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christobar said:
didn't say all those people were experts on music theory. And its fact not opinion that Hendrix has not taken guitar to the next level as guitarist of today have.

He took it *several* levels in his day. He advanced guitar more than anyone else.

Look, he's easily the most influential guitarist of all time. No one is going to argue that he's the most technically skilled. No one has ever argued that. And of course he didn't play - in 1968 - the level of guitarists today. The guitarists of today have had 35+ years to expand and build upon the things Jimi did.
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New Post! Apr 09, 2007 @ 04:57:33#45
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Well Rolling Stone deemed Jimmy Page as the number one guitarist of all time so end of story haha.

Even though I was really pissed when I saw that becasue I thought that of course Slash or Hendrix should be number one. But I'm just a biased stoner I guess.

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