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christobar
Points Whore
864 points
20/M/Sammamish, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2006 | pete said:
well obviously not if its a cover. . .
Thats what im saying, ygnwie classical infuenced songs aren't Hendrix inspired at all so dont try to tell me yngwie wouldnt be around if it weren't for hendrix. He even says his biggest influence his a classical violinist named Pagini or something like that. |  | |
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jonnythan
Cucumber cowboy
Billygoat+
143147 points
100/M/The north,
Join Date: Aug 2005 | From Wikipedia:
Miles Davis was also deeply impressed by Hendrix and was a major influence on his move to electrified jazz-rock fusion. Hendrix was listed as number 3 on VH1's list of 100 Best Hard Rock Artists of all time behind Black Sabbath at the second spot, and Led Zeppelin, ranked number one. Hendrix was ranked number 3 on VH1's list of 100 Best Pop Artists of all time, behind the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. He has been voted by Rolling Stone, Guitar World, and a number of other magazines and polls as the best electric guitarist of all time." |  | |
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disposed
Über-Commander
118 points
17/F/Your mom, Australia
Join Date: Feb 2007 | kyahbean said:
I couldn't even get through that post. Jimi Hendrix is an amazing musician, no matter how many sentences you string together saying he isn't.
Jimi Hendrix is not the best guitarist of all time. He was the best guitarist of his time, because he did things with the guitar which had not been done before. That is like saying the Sex PIstols are the best punk band of all time, which is a load of garbage. | | | |
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kyahbean
Monk
33634 points
27/F/HereWithMe, New York
Join Date: Aug 2005 | disposed said:
Jimi Hendrix is not the best guitarist of all time. He was the best guitarist of his time, because he did things with the guitar which had not been done before. That is like saying the Sex PIstols are the best punk band of all time, which is a load of garbage.
......that's a terrible analogy. But you are entitled to your opinion. | | | |
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jonnythan
Cucumber cowboy
Billygoat+
143147 points
100/M/The north,
Join Date: Aug 2005 | christobar said:
Thats what im saying, ygnwie classical infuenced songs aren't Hendrix inspired at all so dont try to tell me yngwie wouldnt be around if it weren't for hendrix. He even says his biggest influence his a classical violinist named Pagini or something like that.
I'm not sure you're understanding what "influence" means.
Hendrix created a large number of the techniques used to create sounds. He did his thing 35 years ago, so no modern trailblazers are going to be directly copying his stuff or doing anything that draws direct influence from what he did.
Hendrix' sound and style spurred thousands of other talented guitarists to dramatically adopt and start altering his style. His sound and techniques literally turned rock music in a new direction more than any other guitarist in history. What we think of as modern rock was created through a long road on which Hendrix was a gigantically important milestone. | | | |
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disposed
Über-Commander
118 points
17/F/Your mom, Australia
Join Date: Feb 2007 | kyahbean said:
......that's a terrible analogy. But you are entitled to your opinion.
Are you a musician? | | | | Edited: April 12, 2007 @ 10:36 |  |
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Pete
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Bogey Man
76741 points
22/M/Central, United Kingdom
Join Date: Jan 2005 | christobar said:
I could care less if he was "the most important figure" of guitar. I said he isn't the best guitarist. To be the best guitarist it means that you have mastered the guitar more than anyone else, which he hasn't. Maybe if you say most innovative guitarist, but certaintly not best. Hendrix couldn't even tell you the relative minor of C major!
first off, how do you know he did,
second, yeah because knowing nothing about thoery makes you a bad at your instrument | | | |
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jonnythan
Cucumber cowboy
Billygoat+
143147 points
100/M/The north,
Join Date: Aug 2005 | christobar said:
I said he isn't the best guitarist.
Well, it's all in the definition.
Beethoven wasn't the most technically accomplished or best piano player in history but you will have a hard time convincing many people he wasn't the most important figure in the history of music.
In any case, the consensus among the music industry is that Hendrix was the greatest guitarist of all time, because he was not only a technically proficient guitarist, but because he was an artist that truly redefined modern music.
Could he outplay Malmsteen or Petrucci? I doubt it. Did he have a bigger influence than either of them? Absolutely. Did he do more for music than either one of them? Yes. | | | |
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Darkshine
Ogler+
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18/M/Sydney, Australia
Join Date: Apr 2006 | | | | | Edited: April 09, 2007 @ 03:55 | |
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christobar
Points Whore
864 points
20/M/Sammamish, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2006 | pete said:
first off, how do you know he did,
second, yeah because knowing nothing about thoery makes you a bad at your instrument
Because he played in blues pentatonics every song and rarely, if he ever, used other scaled like major and minor. And if you know theory and how to utilize it with your instrument like many modern day guitarist have, then that means you have mastered your instrument more than hendrix.
And on another note, sweeping, tremolo picking, alternate picking (and i know someones going to say alternate picking was around back then but it wasn't, the picking back then was called industrial picking), the 7 string guitar, floyd rose usage, and neo-classicism were all styles that arrived after his time. So yeah he isn't as innovative as you all thought. | | | |
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jonnythan
Cucumber cowboy
Billygoat+
143147 points
100/M/The north,
Join Date: Aug 2005 | Well you showed us.
Now go convince Erlewine, Beck, Brian May, Malmsteen, Vai, Satriani, and Knopfler that you cracked the code and proved Hendrix wasn't the greatest guitarist in history because he didn't know enough music theory. | | | |
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christobar
Points Whore
864 points
20/M/Sammamish, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2006 | jonnythan said:
because he was not only a technically proficient guitarist
HAHA technically proficient my a** man, he was so sloppy. He was not a technical player at all, he didn't play fast, and he didn't play clean, and he often used the same blues licks over and over again. Ill give you the other things you listed at the bottom of that, but not techincally proficient. | | | |
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Pete
Moderator
Bogey Man
76741 points
22/M/Central, United Kingdom
Join Date: Jan 2005 | christobar said:
Because he played in blues pentatonics every song and rarely, if he ever, used other scaled like major and minor. And if you know theory and how to utilize it with your instrument like many modern day guitarist have, then that means you have mastered your instrument more than hendrix.
And on another note, sweeping, tremolo picking, alternate picking (and i know someones going to say alternate picking was around back then but it wasn't, the picking back then was called industrial picking), the 7 string guitar, floyd rose usage, and neo-classicism were all styles that arrived after his time. So yeah he isn't as innovative as you all thought.
mhmm well depending on what the root it is, the blues pent will be either major or minor. . | | | |
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