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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 13:02:12#1
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What are some examples of racism against Arabs in the Disney movie, "Aladdin"?

- the song lyrics " where they'll cut of your ears if they don't like your face, it's barbaric but hey, it's home!".

- Aladdin,Jasmine ( good characters) have european features while Jafar and other evil villains have thick accents, darker skin, twisted noses, etc.)


what else?

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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 13:08:43#2
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You do have a point though.

Even so, it can be a bit petty occasionally...

Lord of the rings is also apparently racist, as "the black gate" is evil.


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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 13:14:10#3
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yes, but aladdin is set in the era of 'the arabian nights' which is many hundreds of years ago, so it is not as if they are alluding to modern day arab states when they say such a thing about cutting off ears in a disney song.
also, it is debatable if you consider aladdin and jasmine to be of european caste, isn't that just your impression, for if you watch the news channel 'al jazerrah' (not sure about the spelling there folks) or any other arab news programme you will see drop dead gorgeous women on a par with any european beauty. and do remember that 'shakira' is of arab origin. and villians are always pug ugly.
think you might be trying to hard to find racist overtones here. and i certainly don't think that any child going to see the cartoon will emerge with racist feelings towards arabs.

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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 13:23:03#4
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wildething said:
yes, but aladdin is set in the era of 'the arabian nights' which is many hundreds of years ago, so it is not as if they are alluding to modern day arab states when they say such a thing about cutting off ears in a disney song.
also, it is debatable if you consider aladdin and jasmine to be of european caste, isn't that just your impression, for if you watch the news channel 'al jazerrah' (not sure about the spelling there folks) or any other arab news programme you will see drop dead gorgeous women on a par with any european beauty. and do remember that 'shakira' is of arab origin. and villians are always pug ugly.
think you might be trying to hard to find racist overtones here. and i certainly don't think that any child going to see the cartoon will emerge with racist feelings towards arabs.


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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 13:34:54#5
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Its not racist.. get a grip.. the main good guys to me look like beautiful middle east people. (just watch fashion TV when there in saudi etc..

Ugly villians have excisted in disney for ages.. and the the remark about chopping off ears etc.. it still happens steeling still gets your hands chopped off in some countries..



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New Post! Oct 24, 2007 @ 14:12:43#6
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the thing is you can carry this racism thing too far.
a little while ago there were rumours that 'carry on up the khyber' should be shown on TV anymore because it may be construed as racist.
quite frankly 'carry on' films might not only be construed as racist but sexist as well, but if anyone takes them seriously they need their heads looking at. it is just good old british bawdy humour at its best and its worst, more panto than PC.
hate it when the PC brigade get going, nothing is safe.

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New Post! Oct 25, 2007 @ 01:53:09#7
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parisstarlight23 said:
What are some examples of racism against Arabs in the Disney movie, "Aladdin"?

- the song lyrics " where they'll cut of your ears if they don't like your face, it's barbaric but hey, it's home!".

- Aladdin,Jasmine ( good characters) have european features while Jafar and other evil villains have thick accents, darker skin, twisted noses, etc.)


what else?

Thank you!


Aladdin and Jasmine to me seem to have Arabian features. The darker skin and twisted noses you are talking about with the evil villians, i dont think thats anything to do with racism. Its all about painting the picture. Those features help the audience to identify that they are supposed to be the evil/bad guys.

Its found in any movie. The bad guys have those distinct 'ugly' features



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New Post! Oct 25, 2007 @ 02:01:40#8
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I agree, it does seem a stretch.

The only example I can think of though is in the beginning where they have an Arab trying to sell broken crap to the audience from a cart. But that's not so much racist as it is just a stereotype.


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New Post! Nov 02, 2007 @ 22:20:04#9
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wildething said:
the thing is you can carry this racism thing too far.
a little while ago there were rumours that 'carry on up the khyber' should be shown on TV anymore because it may be construed as racist.
quite frankly 'carry on' films might not only be construed as racist but sexist as well, but if anyone takes them seriously they need their heads looking at. it is just good old british bawdy humour at its best and its worst, more panto than PC.
hate it when the PC brigade get going, nothing is safe.


i love the carry on films! they're nearly as good as cornerstones of britishness same with postcards of the same humour i just hope and hope some more that this era is one of those '10 year' things, the p.c brigade will all die out after 10 years of their constant bulls**t


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New Post! Nov 10, 2007 @ 16:31:36#10
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What a load of rubbish

No really, this sort of thing, implying racism in that cartoon, is just laughable. I'm sure the OP was posting that as a joke.

As for "black" gate in LOTR, purleeze. So ok, some people call themselves "black". Get over it, it's just a saying, they aren't black, they are brown. Black has always been associated with bad things as it is in the psyche - the built in ability humans have to avoid trouble. Fear of dark - that's because our ancestors might have been picked off by nocturnal predators who could see us whilst we couldn't see them. So "dark" becomes bad, black becomes bad, light becomes good.

Next thing someone will drag out the tired old Star Wars thing

Oh, and the cut off your ears thing, the lyrics got changed due to complaints in the movie "development" stage. Probably a good thing, after all, no arab countries do things like chop off hands of thieves do they



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New Post! Nov 16, 2007 @ 23:12:04#11
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Disney does have a bit of a history of changing details to get a more 'Christian' ethic in its films.

In Hercules for example, the Disney Corporation felt that the original myth of Hercules being the son of Zeus and a mortal woman was not proper, as Zeus is married to Hera, and therefore his birth would have resulted from adultery. Instead they adjusted the story to Hercules being the son of Zeus and Hera. This not only makes the whole story of Hercules having to prove his deity pointless, but as Zeus and Hero are not only husband and wife but also brother and sister, also implies that though adultery is wrong, incest is fine.

The fact the evil ones have twisted (or hooked) noses in other films as well could also easily be construed as an inherent mistrust of people of a different race dating back generations. Both Dickens and Orwell wrote disgustingly anti-Semitic things in wonderful classic literature. Does it make the wonderful literature racist, or does it make the racism overlooked?

As for the Lord of the Rings, I would like to once again state my serious disapproval of the good guys all having blue eyes and the baddies all having green eyes. As a green-eyed person myself, I am awfully upset.


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New Post! Nov 17, 2007 @ 10:58:55#12
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just cuz the literature has anti semetic things in does it mean that the author was anti semetic? i think not myself, after all look at the racism and that in say it by stephen king. stephen king isnt racist but my point is wonderful writers can muster up writing about that sorta thing without fear of accusations of racism or anything. and as for the colour of eyes in lotr.. grow up a bit


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New Post! Feb 19, 2008 @ 20:36:58#13
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Has anyone noticed that Disney's aka animated fairyale/princess movies feature women of all different races except for African-American?

For instance;

#1.)(Caucasian): Snow White, Cinderella, Alice in
Wonderland, The Little Mermaid,
and Beauty and the Beast.

#2.)(Asian): Mulan

#3.)(Arabian): Aladdin

#4.)(Native American): Pocahontas

#5.)(African -American): None

(Except for the real-life Cinderella movie played by Brandy, but I am talking about the animated films)

Also, there is no known Hispanic princess(that I know of)

Has anyone else noticed this?

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New Post! Feb 19, 2008 @ 23:12:06#14
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now you mention it its true but how many african american princess' could there be? most african american 'heroes' are blokes, kunta kinte for instance


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New Post! Feb 20, 2008 @ 13:56:22#15
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windstorm said:
Has anyone noticed that Disney's aka animated fairyale/princess movies feature women of all different races except for African-American?




Hercules features black women, as the singing/back group.


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