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Apr 17, 2006 @ 18:41:09 | #17 | lili
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26/F/Sunshine Land, California Join Date: Apr 2005 | Primerica is NOT a Pyramid Scheme. It does use Network Marketting, but those two terms are not synonymous. A Pyramid scheme does not have ANY products or services, a pyramid scheme's sole business model is paying money so people will pay you money by signing up. First of all, in Primerica a person does not make money just by getting a person to sign up.You only make money on someone else if they make sales, in the same way that Avon works. Is Avon a pyramid scheme? No. Is it Network Marketting? yes. Is Avon a scam? no, and neither is Primerica. Network Marketting is not illegal, pyramid schemes are. Unfortunately, people get the two confused because there have been pyramid schemes that called themselves network marketting, but weren't really, which sucks, but oh well.

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Apr 17, 2006 @ 18:54:26 | #19 | alljive
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31/NA/trondheim, Norway Join Date: Jan 2006 | lili said: That's not true at all! Citigroup has so many divisions, like Citibank (used to be my bank when i lived in an area that had one nearby me) and I'd never even heard of Primerica at that point. I had a Citi credit card, also not sold to me by Primerica, Citifinancial which is a lending division of citigroup who have their own locations. Citigroup does not market soley through Primerica at all! Smith Barney is another division of Citigroup, and most people who invest with them are not associated with Primerica at all. So that's just blatently wrong. Primerica is one marketting division of Citigroup, but Citigroup was doing a lot of business way before Primerica was purchased by them, and they continue to do a lot of their own marketting.
I am sorry, I had my names mixed up.
Went back and checked and found that this was what I was thinking of:
The loan program is aggressively marketed as a debt elimation program. $MART and Citicorp Trust Bank are synonymous, because the $MART loan is the only product offered by Citicorp Trust Bank, and Primerica is the only channel through which it conducts business. As of September 2005, the managing director of Citicorp Trust Bank was Ron Carroll, a 30-year veteran of Citigroup.
I've no interest in smearing primerica, I didn't know anything about it before you mentioned it in this thread. Only reading up on it because I got curious. You asked for opinions: My opinion is that at this time it looks like a system for someone to make money, and I am not convinced that this nessecearliy the salesrep.
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Apr 17, 2006 @ 19:00:13 | #20 | lili
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26/F/Sunshine Land, California Join Date: Apr 2005 | cinnamin said: I still think it's a pyramid. Here's why. If I make money the person who recruited me gets some, then if I recruit, they make money off my recruits, and so on and so forth. If you're not at the top, you make squat.
That's not the definition of a pyramid scheme, that's the definition of network marketting. Real estate is run the same way, does that mean all real estate sales are scams? And in network marketting, you don't make money *just* for signing someone up, you make a percentage of how much that person makes in sales. And it's not true that you don't make squat in network marketting. You make more at the top, but that's where the difference comes in between pyramid and network marketting. Since pyramid schemes have NO products, ONLY people with recruits can make ANY money. In Network marketting, the sales reps sell products, and the person who hired and trained them on how to sell those products gets a percentage of that person's sales, thereby paying them for the time they took to train that person. But the person on the "bottom" still makes money because they are making a commission on the products they are selling.

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Jan 21, 2007 @ 04:01:58 | #24 | aseret
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32/F/Elyria, Ohio Join Date: Jan 2007 | I had an interview at primerica last week. The things I did like about the company is they train you. They seem like they want you to succeed in their company. Even though I didn't like their interviewing techniques (everyone in one room) I didn't mind it either at least you got some info. first before the next step. They didn't pressure me into anything.
The things I didn't like about it.
They want me to pay $199 for licensures, which might be true I haven't looked into that, but they could have told me that before I came to the interview.
They stated that serving just one family you would get a nice size commission which made it seem like a scam. Also they never explained where this commission would come from and how exactly it worked.
They claimed even working part time you'll have a sizable income, I wondered how; working on commission you would really have to put in some work.
They don't advertise, they said they are mostly word of mouth. They probably save a bundle on advertising costs. But it makes me think that they hire large amounts of people who pay their own licensure cost, give them a commission so they don't have the cost of giving them a paycheck (or benefits), all these employees are running around talking to whoever they can about primerica in a good way so they can get them as a client. Even if they only get one client they may have talked to many people about primerica who talk to other people who may call primerica directly and I'm sure the big bosses are in the office waiting for the calls and getting their clients and the commission without even leaving their desk.
The thing that really made me walk away is there was not one
thing in writing not even one small scrap of paper, maybe just a business card. Not even a mission statement in writting- Nothing.
I'm not saying Primerica is not a good company, but anyone with an education would be cautious. Oh yeah, most the people in there had no business education, financial background, they either had a high school education or they were trying to switch from another field that wasn't business related. I have a little bit of a business background and understood their product, but I know the way they were talking in circles that others didn't really know, but they reeled them right in with very limited information.
What I didn't understand is where are all these incredible commissions coming from. The amount that they suggest you'll get from one family is a unreal amount. So how much does it really end up costing that middle cla** client. | | |
Jan 21, 2007 @ 04:28:41 | #25 | lili
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26/F/Sunshine Land, California Join Date: Apr 2005 | I was with Primerica for a couple Months, and here's what I found:
Yes, it is possible to make a good chunk of money like they say. However, it is unlikely. A statistical analysis reveals that only 5% of those in Primerica make $50,000 a year or more. They will tell you that's becuse most people only do it part time. However, it makes one ask: If it's so easy to make so much money, why don't people do it full time? Surely that much money would be better than your typical 9-5?
I asked my trainer "How do I market these services?" His response? "I don't know" he'd been doing it for 4 years. Why didn't he know? His entire tactic of getting sales was to get them from his trainees. Here's the scenario. You have to bring in a certain amount of friends and family in order to complete your training and move up to the next commission level, right? In the mean time, all those friends and family's sales don't go to you, they go to your trainer. So basically, in Primerica, in order to do well, you have to complete your training in order to become a trainer, and then all your trainees will bring you your sales. They will just hand them over because they want to become rich like you promised. Just like you did for your trainer.
How do you make money? Basically, you are a salesperson for CitiBanks financial products, and your income is comission on those sales.
I think what they do is a good thing, as far as financial services go, but I don't like their business model.

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