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New Post! Nov 25, 2007 @ 17:03:45#106
x_Laura_x

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Anyone remember my vegetarian thread?

The girl I mentioned in my original post is an PETA obsessive... it drives me insane!


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New Post! Nov 25, 2007 @ 17:08:11#107
metal4life

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P eople E at T asty A nimals


Bush Sucks!!Gun laws:Go shoot someone with a flint lock,How about black powder.Cause thats what they used 200+ years ago.

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New Post! Nov 25, 2007 @ 17:08:51#108
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x_laura_x said:
Anyone remember my vegetarian thread?

The girl I mentioned in my original post is an PETA obsessive... it drives me insane!


refresh please


Bush Sucks!!Gun laws:Go shoot someone with a flint lock,How about black powder.Cause thats what they used 200+ years ago.
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New Post! Nov 25, 2007 @ 17:10:16#109
x_Laura_x

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metal4life said:
P eople E at T asty A nimals





Ummm check the rants and raves forum, you'll see my thread in there


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New Post! Nov 25, 2007 @ 20:30:55#110
diomedes

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I hate PETA, they're full of s**t.

They hate people and love animals:

All I believe about PETA is in this episode:

link [myspacetv.com]


Height: 5'9"
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Edited: November 25, 2007 @ 20:31
New Post! Dec 10, 2007 @ 09:22:31#112
chavette2

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people will always find something to be against. I am not a vegetarian, but I do believe in the humane treatment of animals (I know to some that may sound nonsensical seeing as i eat animals...but its not.) I actually admire PETA a lot and think they make some very interesting points. They also do much to promote animal welfare

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New Post! Mar 08, 2008 @ 18:52:03#114
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Call me a hypocrite if you want to I do not care. I support PETA and the ALF in their methods to save innocent animals from being harmed. Think about it...put yourself in the animals place and had a machine stuck to your head without any pain medication...wouldnt you want someone to help relieve the pain? That is what I believe these organizations are for...to help innocent animals be relieved from pain and if the animals cannot be helped then I do believe that the kindest way to relieve it is to place the animals to sleep.

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New Post! Mar 08, 2008 @ 20:43:34#115
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Whether animals are actually moral agents is an issue that could generally be ignored. The point is, animals can not uphold the most basic moral responsibilities, why should they be given rights? When a human behaves like an animal, they have their rights restricted or removed. If we are going to extend moral agency to animals, then we are not upholding our own responsibility to prevent them from harming each other. Shouldn't there be global effort to imprison predators and treat animals in hospitals? Shouldn't there be orphanages for all the millions of creatures that are abandoned by their parents?

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New Post! Mar 08, 2008 @ 21:42:38#116
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buffalobill90 said:
Whether animals are actually moral agents is an issue that could generally be ignored. The point is, animals can not uphold the most basic moral responsibilities, why should they be given rights? When a human behaves like an animal, they have their rights restricted or removed. If we are going to extend moral agency to animals, then we are not upholding our own responsibility to prevent them from harming each other. Shouldn't there be global effort to imprison predators and treat animals in hospitals? Shouldn't there be orphanages for all the millions of creatures that are abandoned by their parents?



There are many misconceptions here. I doubt you have ever read any animal rights theory. AR regards nonhuman animals as moral patients not moral agents. Human animals (many at least) have the capacity to act as moral agents.

Rights should not be regarded as gifts to be handed out by kindly persons. The basis for respecting the rights of others such be logic and a commitment to justice.

As for the point about predators, in this sense you should realise that animal rights is about human behaviour and human attitudes to other rights holders.

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New Post! Mar 09, 2008 @ 00:56:27#117
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justinswife said:
I don't understand why so many people are against PETA.
I am a vegitarian myself and an animal rights actavist.
Could someone explain to me why so many people say it's wrong?


My opinion: What is the ultimate goal of PETA? To me it is they are trying to eliminate the killing of animals for any purpose. But they don’t go about protesting hamburger or leather as they get the response seen in this thread. PETA and groups like it like to showcase the material that is easy to outrage the public. To me they are manipulating the public and that is why I don’t like them. Humans are biologically made to eat meat (look at our teeth), if you don’t want to eat meat, fine but don’t manipulate the public to ignore their physiology.
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New Post! Mar 09, 2008 @ 07:04:06#118
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duffman said:
My opinion: What is the ultimate goal of PETA? To me it is they are trying to eliminate the killing of animals for any purpose. But they don’t go about protesting hamburger or leather as they get the response seen in this thread. PETA and groups like it like to showcase the material that is easy to outrage the public. To me they are manipulating the public and that is why I don’t like them. Humans are biologically made to eat meat (look at our teeth), if you don’t want to eat meat, fine but don’t manipulate the public to ignore their physiology.


There is much dispute about human teeth. Here's one view: Renowned anthropologist, Dr.Richard Leakey (Neal Barnard, The Power Of Your Plate, Book Publishing Company: Summertown, Tenn., 1990, p.170)

According to biologists and anthropologists who study our anatomy and our evolutionary history, humans are herbivores who are not well suited to eating meat.
Unlike natural carnivores, we are physically and psychologically unable to rip animals limb from limb and eat and digest their raw flesh. Even cooked meat is likely to cause human beings, but not natural carnivores, to suffer from food poisoning, heart disease, and other ailments.

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Humans lack both the physical characteristics of carnivores and the instinct that drives them to kill animals and devour their raw carcasses. Ask yourself: When you see dead animals on the side of the road, are you tempted to stop for a snack? Does the sight of a dead bird make you salivate? Do you daydream about killing cows with your bare hands and eating them raw? If you answered "no" to all of these questions, congratulations&#151;you're a normal human herbivore&#151;like it or not. Humans were simply not designed to eat meat.

link [www.mail-archive.com]

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New Post! Mar 22, 2008 @ 20:48:42#120
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justinswife; Yes I agree with you about Peta following the laws. I have friends that don't eat meat and that is just fine with me. I don't like animals mistreated. The local farmers donate there cows that have died via natural causes to our zoo. Sure and we feed the meat to our big cats. The cats are not starved because they eat about 2,700lbs. a week. We are inspected four times a year by regulation but they like to surprise ya with a visit. Animals have died at the zoo and it does really hurt. Sure they all have names and beautiful profiles.


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