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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:07:23#31
mark_is_god

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jwasafrog said:
Actually, you're the one who decided to say it's just a bunch of cells and the one who
compared a fetus to a daisy. I'd say that's a little more relevent to an abortion debate than
her situation.


whats that got to do with anything?

i never said i wasn't debating abortion.
i said
"im not the only one debating abortion here, so get of your pedestal."


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:07:41#32
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Yuck, i hate mushy feelings they are so useless and succeed only im getting in the way.


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:10:54#33
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mark_is_god said:
whats that got to do with anything?

i never said i wasn't debating abortion.
i said
"im not the only one debating abortion here, so get of your pedestal."


oops, i missed the "I'm not the only one" part of that the first time. Still though, what I said
wasn't intended just for you.


Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.

—C.S. Lewis
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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:12:44#34
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no problem


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:13:24#35
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blackgoblin said:
i know i had to contradict myself in order to be nice for a change is that bad or should i be mean to her?


no not totally a bad thing but you should stick by what you think,what ever any body thinks or tries to be nice it isnt the grandparents choice its the mothers and she alone has to make that choice,i have taken someone to an abortion clinic and back when i did it,it was a while back they were scanned,then layed on a bed and it was virtually like a conveyar belt,she would have had to go through getting two drs approval,councilling and seeing the child on a scan,so its not a walk in the park shes contenplating,she has her reasons and for her must be very valid to go throw all that to get a date,and it doesnt matter whether people approve or not its the daughters choice.of cource it will be sad for the grandparents knowing they could have had another grand child but life isnt always a bowl of cherries,


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:16:25#36
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jeanettesianrachel said:
no not totally a bad thing but you should stick by what you think,what ever any body thinks or tries to be nice it isnt the grandparents choice its the mothers and she alone has to make that choice,i have taken someone to an abortion clinic and back when i did it,it was a while back they were scanned,then layed on a bed and it was virtually like a conveyar belt,she would have had to go through getting two drs approval,councilling and seeing the child on a scan,so its not a walk in the park shes contenplating,she has her reasons and for her must be very valid to go throw all that to get a date,and it doesnt matter whether people approve or not its the daughters choice.of cource it will be sad for the grandparents knowing they could have had another grand child but life isnt always a bowl of cherries,



I never change my views only make it seem that way to help others
which i do rarely enough and now that i do someone says something
and that is why i never do help others.


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:20:37#37
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Thank you both for your replies. My daughter said it was a mistake (if you call forgetting to use contraception) a mistake. She is more than old enough to know that if you don't protect yourself when having sex you may get pregnant. I have tried to tell her my feelings about aborting my Grandchild and I have listened to her, even though she does not tell me anything except "She doesn't want It". We are willing to take full responsibility for our Grandchild. She does not have to do anything for this child and that includes feeding, clothing, raising, or providing a home for our Grandchild. She or He would be ours only, and not my Daughters responsibility any longer after she gives birth. So to me if she has this option why would she need to get an abortion. Why not let us have this baby? She doesn't want "it" anyway... I know it's her choice and will support my Daughter any way I can even if I dont agree or like the choice she has made.

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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:22:42#38
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I'm truely sorry i do hope all is ok for you all


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:26:59#39
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appylover said:
Thank you both for your replies. My daughter said it was a mistake (if you call forgetting to use contraception) a mistake. She is more than old enough to know that if you don't protect yourself when having sex you may get pregnant. I have tried to tell her my feelings about aborting my Grandchild and I have listened to her, even though she does not tell me anything except "She doesn't want It". We are willing to take full responsibility for our Grandchild. She does not have to do anything for this child and that includes feeding, clothing, raising, or providing a home for our Grandchild. She or He would be ours only, and not my Daughters responsibility any longer after she gives birth. So to me if she has this option why would she need to get an abortion. Why not let us have this baby? She doesn't want "it" anyway... I know it's her choice and will support my Daughter any way I can even if I dont agree or like the choice she has made.



Maybe it wasn't her choice to "forget" to use protection. You can't just tell your daughter you will take it and raise it as your own. You need to talk to people that have given their children up for adoption or to family member. It's hard. Yes. Abortion is hard as well. She has her reasons. maybe the one she gave you was just to get you off her back. Either way, don't push her or you will lose them both.
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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:28:29#40
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blackgoblin said:
I never change my views only make it seem that way to help others
which i do rarely enough and now that i do someone says something
and that is why i never do help others.


i did say not totally a bad thing but im sorry if i upset you,and as for the grandparents all you can do is support your child,i know it will be hard if she let you bring her baby up,my mother did her first daughter and regreted it for years,my sister is 45 now and her life would have been different than it is at the moment


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:29:36#41
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you're making it out to be a simple process.

maybe she dosen't want he physcial pain.
not to mention psychological pain, imagine having to see your child being parented by someone else.

what about the child, how do you explain this too him.

what about the father, whats happens if he wants custody.


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:32:39#42
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jeanettesianrachel said:
i did say not totally a bad thing but im sorry if i upset you,and as for the grandparents all you can do is support your child,i know it will be hard if she let you bring her baby up,my mother did her first daughter and regreted it for years,my sister is 45 now and her life would have been different than it is at the moment


cant upset me so no worries
you opinion is welcome


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:44:02#43
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blackgoblin said:
as i said...
step 1: talk to her in a nice sweet tone
Step 2: make sure she thinks you are helping her situation
Step 3: Make it sound 100% wrong and like murder
Step 4: say it in a sweet tone but in a cold manner
Step 5: Finish the day with a nice sweet hug and hope all goes well.


I don't think this is a good idea! It sounds like this nice lady's daughter has made up her mind. I think if she called her daughter a murderer and spoke to her in a cold manner she may be risking her relationship with her daughter - and therefore her existing grandchildren.

Be supportive of your daughter. Of course, no one would like to see a foetus aborted, but I think she has made up her mind - it may be time to accept it and be a shoulder for your daughter to cry on.
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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:57:13#44
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I want to thank everybody for their replies and will think about everything that has been said. Not sure if the father would want custody in the future but for now he already has one child and one on the way not counting my Daughters. So he sounds like a complete loser. As far as explaining it to the child, would probably have my Daughter explain it to him or her since she is the one that didn't want to have the baby. I know one thing and that is I would let my Grandchild know how wanted and loved they were right from the beginning and how blessed I am to have them in my life and would not have changed anything for the world. I am wondering and have asked my Daughter what she is going to tell my twin Grandsons when they are older and want to know how come she killed their Sister or Brother, why didn't she want them? Either way it ends in a bad situation. Like was said before it effects other people, not just the person who has the abortion.

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New Post! Sep 17, 2007 @ 00:01:10#45
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appylover said:
what she is going to tell my twin Grandsons when they are older and want to know how come she killed their Sister or Brother, why didn't she want them?


why would she tell them anything?

and if she did, hopefully the twins are wise enough to know
(a)their mother didn't kill
(b)an embryo is not a brother or sister.


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