Forum Index > News & Politics
>> Media Reporting
Reply to Topic
Search Topic
Subscription
Author Message
Pages: 1 2 3 4 · >>

New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:12:21#1
treebee
point whore spanker
Über-Moderator
147767 points


Send PM


38/F/Escaped!!!, United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2005

I had a very interesting conversation last night about how media is very different worldwide. How News is worded, how it can be so biased by the Governments of the originating countries.

How "worldwide" we are given different priorities via our education and upbringing. Of course the government completely run our education systems, therefore we are rarely taught anything that is not our governments policy for us to learn.

My freind has been working in Japan for a year, shes going back real soon for another year. She was telling me about how the media and government work there and how there is a national ethic.

At first it sounded shocking but actually thinking about it, isnt patriotism the same thing?

Anyways my point being very similar to Doug's last week. About getting a whole story, getting opinions from both sides before drawing your own conclusions.

Reading through the Israel/Lebnanon threads i can see how media works, i can see how people have absolutely different views because geographically they are a long way away from each other and they are subjected to different media.

I know quite a few people on here DO take a look at the news in asia, africa, americas, australasia, europe and can draw thier own conclusions from this.

All i really want to say is, in another part of the world the same story can be told in a very different way. So please, check sources, look from all angels and please think for yourselves.


link [www.thebreastcancersite.com] Please click to save a life
Teresa is a doll that should be purchased for regular playtime - Googlism

treebee last visited May 15, 2008
1 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:19:13#2
shug

Minister
10400 points


Send PM


27/M/Leeds, United Kingdom
Join Date: Jul 2005

Thinking for yourself is a long lost art...


My webcomic:

shug last visited May 15, 2008
0 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 12:41:40#3
babyrs
Discipline Mistress

36102 points


Send PM


33/F/, Singapore
Join Date: Jan 2006

Couldn't agree with you more.

I find that many people unwittingly get influenced by the media. Sometimes it's hard to create a personal opinion when we're constantly exposed to reports generated by the local media, which may be bound by their own internal red tape and agenda. Especially in cases whereby the government has the 'silent' final say in a lot of matters in relation to the country, to base our opinion and viewpoints simply on these reports would be akin to letting ourselves be dictated on what to think and believe.

There are different and varied styles of reporting events, but to put it mildly, we can never be sure that its told the way the events transpired... more so to expect the local media to give unbiased reports from a stand alone, neutral viewpoint.

For example, Country A has always had great relations with Country B, and would not think twice about rallying behind this country and giving support as and when is needed. This 'relationship' needs to be maintained at all costs - perhaps for trade, resources or political gains. One day, Country B decides to declare war on Country C. Chances are, the general response and media reports in Country A in relation to the war will tilt in favour of Country B.

We have to realize the power of the press. Journalists are often so good at crafting stories and manipulating words, that these not-so-neutral views will be glossed over and dished out to the general public, looking simply like a droning report of the events as it unfolds. Never underestimate the power of words coming from good writers - it can affect the mind in ways that we never thought possible, and very easily, as well. We are lulled into believing what we are made to believe.

Always keep an open mind when it comes to worldwide news coming from the media, especially when politics are involved. Ma** communication is a handy tool - it is perhaps the closest the 'people behind the scenes' can get to 'controlling' a country's state of mind.



babyrs last visited March 18, 2008
0 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 25, 2006 @ 14:51:48#4
treebee
point whore spanker
Über-Moderator
147767 points


Send PM


38/F/Escaped!!!, United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2005

just for info, here are the sites that i use for news

link [www.bbc.co.uk]
link [news.bbc.co.uk]
link [www.kommersant.com]
link [www.hindu.com]
link [commentisfree.guardian.co.uk]
link [today.reuters.co.uk]
link [www.atimes.com]
link [www.wnafrica.com]
link [news.bbc.co.uk]
link [news.independent.co.uk]
link [www.news.com.au]

there are so many sources out there thats just a few!


link [www.thebreastcancersite.com] Please click to save a life
Teresa is a doll that should be purchased for regular playtime - Googlism

treebee last visited May 15, 2008
1 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 29, 2006 @ 10:36:43#5
steraw04

Minister
12232 points


Send PM


21/M/Toronto, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2005

Thats a very good point. Especially as a lot of people on the site do just find one story on one news site and run off with it without knowing the full story.

Its very difficult to have truly supported strong views for any news or media situation. Reporters are meant to record events with an unbiased mind. But, a mind cannot remain unbiased if it is in the middle of a war zone.

The best thing to do is to not have strong opinions to begin with. Then eventually build on them with time. Pulling together some form of argument towards an opinion, that with quite a few facts, no longer may be just an opinion.

Something rather interesting to note. The BBC during the lebanon/israel conflict has had very different reporting techniques. Over the last week, reports from and on lebanon have been nearly 4 times as long then the israel reports. Could this have an effect on the public's opinions? Or is it simply the fact that, damage and destruction in lebanon will sell more than the little damage being caused in israel?

Thats just an example of how opinions have to be made very carefully.


Danger! Inhibition astraddle transgress. = Danger! No entry Chinglish. link [en.wikipedia.org]

steraw04 last visited December 12, 2007
0 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 08:36:41#6
newwealth

Meister
1255 points


Send PM


48/F/Little Rock, Arkansas
Join Date: Jul 2006

treebee said:
just for info, here are the sites that i use for news

link [www.bbc.co.uk]
link [news.bbc.co.uk]
link [www.kommersant.com]
link [www.hindu.com]
link [commentisfree.guardian.co.uk]
link [today.reuters.co.uk]
link [www.atimes.com]
link [www.wnafrica.com]
link [news.bbc.co.uk]
link [news.independent.co.uk]
link [www.news.com.au]

there are so many sources out there thats just a few!


I noticed that most of these are british/uk. None seem to be American .. that is GOOD, LOL. I've held since 1991 that the mainstream American news is nothing less than propaganda and I use many different news sources as well. At one time (as short a time ago as twenty years) American news sources were just that .. news. Now they are opinion and propaganda. I believe that the news media (all countries included) is just as responsible as politics is for many wars and deaths going on around our globe. I don't trust any of them anymore. However, I do tend to trust the BBC/UK sources more than the American sources because when I do my resource, I can find more corrobaration on what those sources report than what the American sources do.

It saddens me that this country (the USA) is not what it was 35 years ago. We were honorable then. Trusted. But over the past two decades or so we've lost that credibility and I believe its due to our media reporting and so called uncensored news. Believe me, it is censored in some way or another before it ever reaches the front page. And, in some case, many cases, matter of fact, the editors and reporters are not using credible sources and later have to print retractions .. however, the damage, by that time is already done.


"Learn to write your hurts in sand, carve your blessings in stone-unknown"
newwealth last visited November 28, 2006
0 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 10:09:02#7
treebee
point whore spanker
Über-Moderator
147767 points


Send PM


38/F/Escaped!!!, United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2005

newwealth said:
I noticed that most of these are british/uk. None seem to be American .. that is GOOD, LOL. I've held since 1991 that the mainstream American news is nothing less than propaganda and I use many different news sources as well. At one time (as short a time ago as twenty years) American news sources were just that .. news. Now they are opinion and propaganda. I believe that the news media (all countries included) is just as responsible as politics is for many wars and deaths going on around our globe. I don't trust any of them anymore. However, I do tend to trust the BBC/UK sources more than the American sources because when I do my resource, I can find more corrobaration on what those sources report than what the American sources do.

It saddens me that this country (the USA) is not what it was 35 years ago. We were honorable then. Trusted. But over the past two decades or so we've lost that credibility and I believe its due to our media reporting and so called uncensored news. Believe me, it is censored in some way or another before it ever reaches the front page. And, in some case, many cases, matter of fact, the editors and reporters are not using credible sources and later have to print retractions .. however, the damage, by that time is already done.


i dont know what news sources in the USA are credible.


link [www.thebreastcancersite.com] Please click to save a life
Teresa is a doll that should be purchased for regular playtime - Googlism
treebee last visited May 15, 2008
0 Kudos   

New Post! Jul 31, 2006 @ 10:15:57#8
newwealth

Meister
1255 points


Send PM


48/F/Little Rock, Arkansas
Join Date: Jul 2006

treebee said:
i dont know what news sources in the USA are credible.


LOL. As far as I know .. NONE!! heheheheh. The news media in the United States is "owned" by only seven corporations. I fancy myself to be a pretty good internet researcher, but I've not been able to "break" into which individuals this corporate ownership translates to, but I know better than to think that seven corporations would give us an "impartial" view of news, heheheheh


"Learn to write your hurts in sand, carve your blessings in stone-unknown"
newwealth last visited November 28, 2006
0 Kudos   

New Post! Aug 15, 2006 @ 07:09:37#9
pissyjoey

Über-Meister
1567 points


Send PM


31/M/Midwest City, Oklahoma
Join Date: Dec 2005

Wow. I haven't been on here in awhile. Things have changed. You all seem to be more aware than the last group of News and Politics regulars. Not you treebee; you were always more in-tune than most others on this forum.


"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." — George Orwell

pissyjoey last visited January 21, 2007
0 Kudos   Edited: August 15, 2006 @ 07:11

New Post! Aug 20, 2006 @ 02:38:08#10
niklimbo

General
348 points


Send PM


17/M/Doncaster on me, United Kingdo
Join Date: Aug 2006

geez louise do people have opinions
i was just going to go on north korea take s**t from no one
like america they were all like
s**tr we can do wahtever the f**k we want
like check this out
check this out
hey hey north korea what you doing with missiles what you doing
and north korea just gos
yeah we got them want to see them closer
and america
what happened
ran off
ran off
i dont even know if this is what this thinmgs about but
what you gonna do


i got shot in the face with a dart gun for money

niklimbo last visited September 13, 2006
0 Kudos   

New Post! Aug 20, 2006 @ 03:01:57#11
treebee
point whore spanker
Über-Moderator
147767 points


Send PM


38/F/Escaped!!!, United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2005

niklimbo said:
geez louise do people have opinions
i was just going to go on north korea take s**t from no one
like america they were all like
s**tr we can do wahtever the f**k we want
like check this out
check this out
hey hey north korea what you doing with missiles what you doing
and north korea just gos
yeah we got them want to see them closer
and america
what happened
ran off
ran off
i dont even know if this is what this thinmgs about but
what you gonna do


WTF are you on about?


link [www.thebreastcancersite.com] Please click to save a life
Teresa is a doll that should be purchased for regular playtime - Googlism
treebee last visited May 15, 2008
0 Kudos   

New Post! Aug 21, 2006 @ 09:00:09#12
brainfarmer

Über-Minister
18312 points


Send PM


47/M/huddersfield, United Kingdom
Join Date: Aug 2006

i tend use the bbc and find it reasonably balanced but i do look at other things such as apf reuters. im a sceptic so i do tend to question everything and i do get cross when people mix fact with opinion .


Who's that hanging from the gallow tree
His eyes are hollow but he looks like me
Who's that swinging from the gallow tree
Up jumped the Devil and took my soul from me

brainfarmer last visited February 09, 2007
0 Kudos   

New Post! Aug 24, 2006 @ 10:23:39#13
brainfarmer

Über-Minister
18312 points


Send PM


47/M/huddersfield, United Kingdom
Join Date: Aug 2006

just been listening to a programme on the radio about army recruiters in america scarey stuff they are like high pressure salesmen with the right to go to every american high school to get recruits they have quotas to meet. there was a bit were the recruiter was trying to sign up a 17 year old with adhd without breaking the rules.
it was a great bit of media reportage made me realise how different we are from america


Who's that hanging from the gallow tree
His eyes are hollow but he looks like me
Who's that swinging from the gallow tree
Up jumped the Devil and took my soul from me

brainfarmer last visited February 09, 2007
0 Kudos   

New Post! Aug 27, 2006 @ 21:43:39#14
dujac

Debater
6116 points


Send PM


49/M/Hot Springs, Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2006

and the difference between iran and britain?

suicide bombers?

journalists in jail?

chopped heads?

vow to destroy isreal?


laissez les bon temps roule

dujac last visited January 07, 2008
0 Kudos   

New Post! Sep 01, 2006 @ 03:42:35#15
smart

Mega Über-Meister
3041 points


Send PM


16/M/maradhu, Maldives
Join Date: Jul 2006

dujac...wat are you really upto..this is nothing in you except the religeional anger...we see more suicide things in Birtain than Iran and Iran has the right to vow to destroy American Government cause another war is just rising behind the scenes,which george bush always wanted to do against mideast...
I vow to argue you in everything about Iran and no one can stop me from it..this is too much...


smart last visited April 17, 2007
0 Kudos   
Reply to Topic<< Previous Topic | Next Topic >>
Pages: 1 2 3 4 · >>

Top

TFS Time: Thu 15 May 2008 11:39 pm CDT
Copyright © 2004-2008 Funky Llama Productions, LLC   |   Home   |   Contact   |   Privacy Policy   |   Terms of service
Proudly hosted by Liquid Web

 
The Forum Site - Your premier source for everything