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Forum Index > Society & Lifestyles | >> Maslow's hierarchy of needs | | |
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Will_Mackie
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Join Date: Nov 2009 | claudibee said:
I was given this to ponder on an OU course that I was doing. It made a lot of sense in the context that we were discussing it which was who can worry about higher ideals when trying to keep body and soul together through poverty. 
Agreed!
However!
Poverty is said to happen when an individual is deprived of one of the groups of the hierarchy!
The fundamental idea is, i feel spot on!
We all need to minimum to live, everything above the lower level defines us where as the first one keeps us alive |  | |
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claudibee
I will NOT!!
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Join Date: Oct 2008 | Will_Mackie said:
Agreed!
However!
Poverty is said to happen when an individual is deprived of one of the groups of the hierarchy!
The fundamental idea is, i feel spot on!
We all need to minimum to live, everything above the lower level defines us where as the first one keeps us alive
We were talking about poverty in terms of homelessness, hunger and the wherewithal to survive economically. But I see you're point about holistic 'poverty', if you will. Deprivation obviously takes different forms and can affect even those people who are well-off economically following this model.
And we're pressed in love's hot, fevered iron like a striped pair of pants - MacArthur Park | | | |
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Will_Mackie
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19/M/, United Kingdom
Join Date: Nov 2009 | claudibee said:
We were talking about poverty in terms of homelessness, hunger and the wherewithal to survive economically. But I see you're point about holistic 'poverty', if you will. Deprivation obviously takes different forms and can affect even those people who are well-off economically following this model.
Agreed!
Although, homelessness and hunger are deprivations of the hierarchy!
First and second groupings
food and saftey | | | |
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claudibee
I will NOT!!
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Join Date: Oct 2008 | Will_Mackie said:
Agreed!
Although, homelessness and hunger are deprivations of the hierarchy!
First and second groupings
food and saftey
Yes, see your point but, once that was acknowledged, we were considering how other forms of deprivation can affect people who are economically comfortable, mainly because 'deprivation' is sometimes considered only in the financial sense.
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Will_Mackie
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19/M/, United Kingdom
Join Date: Nov 2009 | claudibee said:
Yes, see your point but, once that was acknowledged, we were considering how other forms of deprivation can affect people who are economically comfortable, mainly because 'deprivation' is sometimes considered only in the financial sense.
Deprivation is commonly seen in financial ways, however im talking in general.
I mean, well its difficult to justify if i dont know what type of deprivation you are thinking of! | | | |
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claudibee
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Join Date: Oct 2008 | Will_Mackie said:
Deprivation is commonly seen in financial ways, however im talking in general.
I mean, well its difficult to justify if i dont know what type of deprivation you are thinking of!
Once we'd considered economic poverty we thought about, for instance, the love/belonging aspect or those people who suffered from low self-esteem. Without getting too deeply into Semantics, 'poverty' was being considered in other forms, how people could be deprived of a fulfilling life if other levels of the hierarchy were incomplete or missing.
And we're pressed in love's hot, fevered iron like a striped pair of pants - MacArthur Park | | | |
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Will_Mackie
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19/M/, United Kingdom
Join Date: Nov 2009 | claudibee said:
Once we'd considered economic poverty we thought about, for instance, the love/belonging aspect or those people who suffered from low self-esteem. Without getting too deeply into Semantics, 'poverty' was being considered in other forms, how people could be deprived of a fulfilling life if other levels of the hierarchy were incomplete or missing.
That was what i was trying to get at!
Maybe i just didn't have it clear enough in my head to explain it properly! :p
Without even one level of the hierarchy, there is to a degree some poverty | | | |
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claudibee
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Join Date: Oct 2008 | Will_Mackie said:
That was what i was trying to get at!
Maybe i just didn't have it clear enough in my head to explain it properly! :p
Without even one level of the hierarchy, there is to a degree some poverty
I agree entirely! 
And we're pressed in love's hot, fevered iron like a striped pair of pants - MacArthur Park | | | |
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chisa96
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Join Date: Mar 2008 | Will_Mackie said:
Without even one level of the hierarchy, there is to a degree some poverty
but it's pretty clear that the first two tiers of the pyramid are referring to tangible povery-- things like physical starvation, physical danger of death, physical suffering...
yes, being deprived of love could be considered poverty, but that's not what the theory is talking about until the third tier... the point of the pyramid is that a person can't seek out love and acceptance while they are physically fighting for their lives...
You gain the most endurance by walking uphill.
Every extremist on every side of every issue is generally wrong. | | | |
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Will_Mackie
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19/M/, United Kingdom
Join Date: Nov 2009 | chisa96 said:
but it's pretty clear that the first two tiers of the pyramid are referring to tangible povery-- things like physical starvation, physical danger of death, physical suffering...
yes, being deprived of love could be considered poverty, but that's not what the theory is talking about until the third tier... the point of the pyramid is that a person can't seek out love and acceptance while they are physically fighting for their lives...
Yes!
Basically, i see it as, if people do not have at least the first 2 tiers, then they are dead, or very close to death.
tiers three and four are, well, the icing on the cake if you will | | | |
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