Forums: Science: PsychologyMaslow's concept of the jonah complex |
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| annski729 Giant Donkey+ ![]() Washington, District of Columb | #1 Basically, the jonah complex is the fear of success, or achieving one's full potential. The fear may be due to a fear of attracting attention, appearing self-centered, fearing increased responsibility, or fearing of being outside of the norm (and therefore not accepted by others). While I'm not big on personality theory, I think the jonah complex is quite prevalent. How many times have you seen a friend or family member doubt their ability when you know quite well that if they just took that first big step they would undoubtedly succeed? Have you ever felt this way either about yourself or another? | ||
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| Pete Master of Unlocking Twinky ![]() Central Scotland, United Kingd | #2 Sounds like me. | ||
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| annski729 Giant Donkey+ ![]() Washington, District of Columb | #3 How so? I've been noticing it in myself too. I'm usually pretty confident in my abilities, but when faced with some kind of big task I start doubting myself. It's happened all the time with exams and now I'm starting to notice it in myself when I apply for jobs. It's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you don't try with confidence it's like you're setting yourself up for failure. | ||
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| treebee Government Hooker nee ner nee ner ![]() London, United Kingdom | #4 yes i can relate to it as well, in work and personal life. If someone else steps forward I automatically let them take limelight. Even let people take credit for things I do or suggest. Even getting married, the thought of being centre of attention makes me feel sick. Its wrong but I would rather sit on the sideline than take glory. I even suggest things to people and let them think they thought of it because I acutely cannot bear recognition. | ||
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| Pete Master of Unlocking Twinky ![]() Central Scotland, United Kingd | #5 @annski729 Said ![]() How so? I've been noticing it in myself too. I'm usually pretty confident in my abilities, but when faced with some kind of big task I start doubting myself. It's happened all the time with exams and now I'm starting to notice it in myself when I apply for jobs. It's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you don't try with confidence it's like you're setting yourself up for failure. Same as you've mentioned really. | ||
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| eternus_somnium clinically crackers Bogey Man+ ![]() , United States (general) | #6 I felt that way often in school. There were many times when I would get a test back and hide the score because I didn't want the attention that came with a great/perfect score. As I grew up I began having doubts about my abilities and would sabotage myself in a way because while I did know on some level that I could be great at something, I didn't want to seem arrogant or show off. I couldn't let myself achieve my best because I was afraid I'd be even more alienated from the people around me. | ||
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| boobagins SPICY HOT TAMALES Points Whore Master+ ![]() Astral Weeks, Florida | #7 @annski729 Said ![]() Basically, the jonah complex is the fear of success, or achieving one's full potential. The fear may be due to a fear of attracting attention, appearing self-centered, fearing increased responsibility, or fearing of being outside of the norm (and therefore not accepted by others). While I'm not big on personality theory, I think the jonah complex is quite prevalent. How many times have you seen a friend or family member doubt their ability when you know quite well that if they just took that first big step they would undoubtedly succeed? Have you ever felt this way either about yourself or another? I don't' think of that has the Jonah complex, I think of it as insecurity. Jonah complex to me is the fear of "over doing it" when you know you can, but don't, because what would other people think if you did TOO much? It's the fear that once you get there, you won't be able to pull back because you would then have a responsibility to see it through because other people are now counting on it instead of you. But no, if someone doesn't try and constantly needs to be told that "they can do it" when everyone including themselves knows that they can do it but refuse it, that's insecurity. | |||
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| annski729 Giant Donkey+ ![]() Washington, District of Columb | #8 @boobagins Said ![]() I don't' think of that has the Jonah complex, I think of it as insecurity. Jonah complex to me is the fear of "over doing it" when you know you can, but don't, because what would other people think if you did TOO much? It's the fear that once you get there, you won't be able to pull back because you would then have a responsibility to see it through because other people are now counting on it instead of you. But no, if someone doesn't try and constantly needs to be told that "they can do it" when everyone including themselves knows that they can do it but refuse it, that's insecurity. Here a link for a description of the jonah complex: link [www.executive-and-life-coaching.com] What about when they don't know they can do it? | |||
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| boobagins SPICY HOT TAMALES Points Whore Master+ ![]() Astral Weeks, Florida | #9 @annski729 Said ![]() Here a link for a description of the jonah complex: link [www.executive-and-life-coaching.com] What about when they don't know they can do it? Still insecurity to me. If they don't know they can't do and don't do it. Same as if they don't know that they can do it and need to be told that they can do it before doing it. To me, now knowing you can't do it shouldn't stop you from still trying with an expectation that there is a chance that you may fail. The initial steps are always taken by those with Jonah complex because they do need to have some sort reinforcement to support their complex (which is the ability to be successful) in real terms. To me the fear comes midway through, the accomplish a little (to satisfy their complex), but don't go all the way. At least this is how I see it from my understanding of it. | |||
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| boobagins SPICY HOT TAMALES Points Whore Master+ ![]() Astral Weeks, Florida | #10 Fear to act upon your talents because you fear that you will never live up to those talents, right? It's been a while since I studied psychology but at what point are is "not actively searching for your destiny" out of fear or out of laziness, or out of insecurity << which stems from fear but not the same pool of fear as the greatness potential. | |||
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| Willi country preacher Ogler+ ![]() north in, Illinois | #11 sounds like the reluctant messiah Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah | ||
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