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New Post! May 17, 2006 @ 06:44:37#1
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OK 2000 years ogo the greatest Empire ever to have been ruled the world as it was then known.
This included a place called judeah,
for ages the Jews had been waiting for a Messiah, the person that freed them from bondage in Babylon was a guy an Assyrian called Cyrus the Great he was called the Messiah.
Now according to biblical texts the house of Davuid was to Rule the land.
However a cleaver politicaian who was not even jewish had himself installed as the King he was called Herod the Greathe died around the year4 BC, now no one can tell us why he was called Great he killed 3 sons and 2 wives Great murder???
He builf extensively including a remake of the temple of Soloman this he did to gain favour with the Jewish people,
Between the year 7 and 4 bc a child was born to a"Virgin now the word virgin in this context means girl of eligable age.
She married a man called Joseph who we are told felt obliged to provide a father for this baby.
Now we suspect that Mary was eother raped by a rpman soldier called Pantherus or she had a boy friend who did wrong by her.
Back then as is in some places today a bride was given for want of a better word for reasons of Dowry reasons of making a family stronger etc
this means thaT contrary to popular belief Joseph was not a poor carpenter.
With Herods program of creating buildings there would have been a lot of work available.
So did Joseph own the equivelant of a modern day building company ?? Mary"s family is unlikely to have passed their daughter off to a poor carpenter.
The aramaic word for teenage is Angeloi this see,s to have gotten mixed up in translation with the word Angel
It was probably a cousin who ran to the fields to announce to his shepheard relations that a baby boi was born.
In a manger Yes there is evidence that in the basement of houses of shepheards there was a place where they bought the sheep in to in times of extreme cold.
Remember in the holy land it snows in winter.
On the 24th of July in Italy they celebrate St Johns day John the baptis is according to thje bible Jesus"s cousin and he was born 2 weeks before Jesus so extropulAte 2 weeks from July 24 and you get August 7 Pieces the fish sign I think covers this period.
His sign well some say Aquarius and some say Pieces
So we have a baby who is born of a woman who grows into a teacher/preacher and is in trouble with Rome.
I willl tommorrow finish some mysteries surrounding the rest of this story and hios life




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New Post! May 17, 2006 @ 07:49:23#2
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New Post! May 17, 2006 @ 08:47:33#3
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treebee said:
damn plotholes



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New Post! May 18, 2006 @ 06:11:21#4
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That's a neat way to look at it. There were a few spelling things and I didn't totally get what you were saying, though.
The Greek thing you said is wrong, though. I know because I'm taking Biblical, or Koinae Greek right now. I've been able to examine several Biblical as well as extra-Biblical texts and examine that stuff.
So what if the guy who wrote it thought it was an angel--that doesn't hurt your arguement. The guy was wacked, whatever.




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New Post! May 18, 2006 @ 06:18:17#5
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Well wristband I will get to that a bit later as I believe that he spoke greek it does not tell us in the bible about an interpretor at the trail the holy land was completely Helenised andd the lingua frank of rome was Greek Latin was used for official occassions and the senate.
I was just trying to make Jesus a real man and try to strip away all the myth and hype thats all




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New Post! May 18, 2006 @ 06:34:42#6
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I get that you're trying to look at it objectively, and that's cool.
Greek-Latin? That's funny...
I've taken both of them. It's not even...
Roman takes a lot from ancient Greek. It's culture, it's societal structure, it's language vocabulary and syntax--a lot of it is trying to immitate the Helenic ideal.
The Greek that was spoken by Jesus or whatever is...dubious. The Judean area was very 'ethnic,' I guess you could put it. I'm sure Jews were speaking whatever language was comfortable for them, as well as whatever language they needed to communicate with the occupying military and governing presence that was Rome.
Sorry I'm babbling on. This stuff is just really cool, and I like to discuss.




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New Post! May 18, 2006 @ 06:40:12#7
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OK these ppl in Judeah were very multilingual, they spoke as an official language Greek as was the custom of Helenised peoples.
They also spoke hebrew and what ever local dialect ie Aramaic also.
No my dear friend you are not babbling you put up some good points so we can learn from each other thats fine bt me




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New Post! May 18, 2006 @ 08:17:40#8
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