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chief_big




haggisville, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Aug 18, 2011 @ 01:23:55
Ok one of the main posts on the home page was about a guy how seen a soldier who died for his comrades ina arms etc.

Got me thinking of the irony in it........ reasoning for it?

Reason 1; He could not live with the guilt of having done nothing, well then it wasn't for his friends benefit but for his own and becomes a selfish act..... making the selfless act it is potrayed as a lie to control and allow the general majority to feel comfort for........ (see option 3)

Reasoin 2;(and the rarer of the two) he was self aware enough to realise the sacrafice he made and done so willingly, making him the proper and ideal member of society.... of which we need many more of (or atleast one).


Here in lies the irony ( for those of you yet still to figure it out )that genetic trait that we value so much died with him, instead we get his useless friends to contribute to the genetic gene pull making his sacrifice a waste.

One could argue that this (societies perfect man) choice of who survives is perfect because being perfect he knows what's best, however once again this trait we value was not intelligence but the mindset of an ant or a wasp who stings you and dies, and his sacrafice becomes not that of societies perfect man but that of a neandrethal.

The third option and most likely was; Monkey see monkey do, he was trained to die because if not he would have became a useless member of society. A sum of left over genetic knowledge from the pre-historic age (somewhat the same as option 2), who not only did it for a selfish reason but that we (modern society) deemed an acceptable loss because of the useless nature of his existance.
On April 23, 2013
MadCornishBiker

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St Columb Road, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Aug 24, 2011 @ 00:12:25
@chief_big Said

Ok one of the main posts on the home page was about a guy how seen a soldier who died for his comrades ina arms etc.

Got me thinking of the irony in it........ reasoning for it?

Reason 1; He could not live with the guilt of having done nothing, well then it wasn't for his friends benefit but for his own and becomes a selfish act..... making the selfless act it is potrayed as a lie to control and allow the general majority to feel comfort for........ (see option 3)

Reasoin 2;(and the rarer of the two) he was self aware enough to realise the sacrafice he made and done so willingly, making him the proper and ideal member of society.... of which we need many more of (or atleast one).


Here in lies the irony ( for those of you yet still to figure it out )that genetic trait that we value so much died with him, instead we get his useless friends to contribute to the genetic gene pull making his sacrifice a waste.

One could argue that this (societies perfect man) choice of who survives is perfect because being perfect he knows what's best, however once again this trait we value was not intelligence but the mindset of an ant or a wasp who stings you and dies, and his sacrafice becomes not that of societies perfect man but that of a neandrethal.

The third option and most likely was; Monkey see monkey do, he was trained to die because if not he would have became a useless member of society. A sum of left over genetic knowledge from the pre-historic age (somewhat the same as option 2), who not only did it for a selfish reason but that we (modern society) deemed an acceptable loss because of the useless nature of his existance.



Interesting thought.

A conversation between an old wounded soldier, sporting his medals on Armistice day, and a couple of youths went like this.

Youths Hey man you must have been pretty brave out there facing the enemy.

Old Soldier Brave? I'll let you into a secret. I didn't know one man who wasn't there because he was more scared of what his folks would say if he didn't go. No, we weren't brave, none of us we just chose what we saw as the lesser of two evils, better to die out there than be ostracised back home.

Made me think I have to admit. I don't doubt that the old soldier was exaggerating somewhat, but I do know that he was right about a lot of his fellow soldiers at the time. Many called the Conscientious objectors cowards, but they had the courage to face what the old soldier (and his comrades) did not.
On April 07, 2013
restoreone




, Ohio
#3New Post! Aug 24, 2011 @ 00:25:12
For the Vietnam War few faced it they just ran off to Canada.
Those that stay showed their true beliefs.IMO
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MadCornishBiker

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St Columb Road, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Aug 24, 2011 @ 12:50:01
@restoreone Said

For the Vietnam War few faced it they just ran off to Canada.
Those that stay showed their true beliefs.IMO



Yes that is the case, those who ran from both didn't truly have the courage of their convictions. many true "conchies" died for thier beliefs anyway, those that were imprisoned were "sitting ducks".

Incidentally my late ex father in law was a wartime "conchie" and it was one of the few things I admired about him. I certainly didn't admire his choice of wife, lol. Mind you even that took courage.
On April 07, 2013
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