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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 05:23:22#31
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darkshine said:
I just see him as a cowardly bastard. He "United" all of Europe through the killing
of was it 800 million people? Is it really worth it that much? He knew
EVERYTHING which was going on during that time, he was a racist, homophobic
genocidal maniac who knew entirely that his troops where murdering Jewish
children. Then, when about to be caught, he goes and pops himself off. He
couldn't even face the world for what he'd done.
He was a shameful excuse for a human being.


Nowhere near 800 million people, nearer 5 or 6. I studied The Third Reich in some depth at University and although he did kill himself right at the end, he had plenty of opportunity to escape to South America in the days beforehand which he turned down. Almost every other European leader left their capital before the Germans invaded, even Churchill would have gone to Canada had the Germans invaded Britain. He may have been many things but he wasn't a coward.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 05:24:47#32
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On a further note the rest of Europe turned their backs on the Jews knowing full well what was happening to them.

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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 05:28:06#33
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I don't think he had anything wrong with him in the head; he was a genious. His view of values was just extremely skewed in most people opinion.




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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:10:14#34
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cobber said:


The wrong that went on aside, I hold some respect for Adolf Hitler. Unlike the pollies of today, he stood by his convictions and put HIS people first...not sell them off.


yeah, he put his people first...by killing six or so million of them. Hitler killed for the good of his race, Stalin killed for the good of the nation. Stalin killed at least 32 million and probably alot more, but his intentions were good, so i for one forgive him. Hitler on the other hand killed for the good of one race, i don't forgive him.

And you are right cobber, Hitler was NOT gay or Jewish. There was a rumour that his grandfather was jewish but that has been proved wrong. Though Hitler's sister did run a hostel for Jews before he came to power and she often defended them.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:34:50#35
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stumblinthrulife said:
A lot of the extreme views and actions attributable to Hitler are actually those of his generals. Hitler laid out some very high level plans, such as "remove all Jews, do what you need to". He did not directly say "kill all Jews", it was his staff that decided that. Hitler was not a man to go back to and question, so they went about acheiving the task in the best way they could think of.

I'm in not defending Hitler with this statement, just passing on a little nugget of information I learned a few months back. Undoubtedly racial cleansing by any means - deportation, execution, marginalisation leading to attrition - is evil.



he hated the jews with a passion. he didnt just want them out of the country, he wanted them out of the world. the nazi's themselves planned and experimented on the best ways to eliminate them, so although it wasnt hitlers idea as such for the gas camps, he did want them executed. after all, he was planning on ruling the world and he wanted no jew/gypsy etc in that world.
i think overall his plans as a politic leader were very well, but there is no excuse possible for the millions of peoples lives he took.
i for one think he was a complete bastard, to put it in a nice way.
its a shame his life ended so easily compared to the millions at his order.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:42:46#36
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david01902 said:
On a further note the rest of Europe turned their backs on the Jews knowing full well what was happening to them.


In this era, every single political party was anti-Jew. Majority of Europeans were anti-Jew. Much of this hatred was created by the Jewish community just as they are doing today, only this time, under the Israeli and American Flags.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:43:42#37
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:44:27#38
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jmo said:
yeah, he put his people first...by killing six or so million of them. Hitler killed for the good of his race, Stalin killed for the good of the nation. Stalin killed at least 32 million and probably alot more, but his intentions were good, so i for one forgive him. Hitler on the other hand killed for the good of one race, i don't forgive him.


Hitler did not kill people who he considered to be of HIS people. He loved them. He killed Germans and such yes but he did not see them as his.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:50:50#39
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cobber said:
In this era, every single political party was anti-Jew. Majority of Europeans were anti-Jew. Much of this hatred was created by the Jewish community just as they are doing today, only this time, under the Israeli and American Flags.


plus the fact that when stories were leaked out, the horror of it all was literally unbelievable. no one anywhere actually believed that it was going on. so it wasnt a case of everyone turning their backs.
but in them days, to hear something that extreme was just not believable.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:51:36#40
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cobber said:
Hitler did not kill people who he considered to be of HIS people. He loved them. He killed Germans and such yes but he did not see them as his.


But they were his people, whether he thought them as that or not. And he killied Communists, socialists, gypsies, criminals, disabled people and homeless people. Seeing as Hitler himself was homeless at one point that is the hight of hypocracy, Hitler was mad.
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:53:19#42
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I think everyone is evil, but some people less so than others, Hitler was more evil than most, i think.

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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:53:29#43
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cmplord said:
Im kinda 50/50 on the issue as I can see the argument from both sides...his ideas about Jews still rings very true today (im not going to go into a big arse debate about this) but to 'cull' them all was a ridiculous idea as you simply just cant do that...Hitler was...Hitler....lol



but hitler did do that lol
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New Post! May 13, 2006 @ 10:57:21#45
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cmplord said:
No he didnt lol Jews still exist today...note I said "cull them ALL"


you know what i meant lol
it was his plan to do it all and if he hadnt had been defeated i think them olans wouldve carried on till it was complete.
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