9000 BC: The Magdalenian people who lived at Altamira Cave in Spain painted a collection of mostly bison along with a horse, a deer, and a pig on the cave surface. The images must have been a kind of communication. Today we might call it media. The images are in color. Today we would call the industries that produced the pigments chemicals and mining. Probably they ate the bison, deer etc, but the animals are not yet livestock.

Altamira's lack of soot suggests that these people had a source of light that burned clean. (Treehuggers rejoice!) It's a rather remarkable possibility when compared to the Sistine Chapel that had to be cleaned after only a few hundred years.

So Altamira is a stop on the history of basic materials, food, fuel, media, and shelter.

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thank you, very informative

Our mothers would kill us if we got tatoos. Even worse, Grandmamá might cancel our trust fund. On the other hand, they might be willing to accept a temporary image out of respect for the artist, or for the Magdalenian people, whom they would call the equals of innovative folks like Wilber Wright or James Joyce.


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1843: In London, according to Charles Dickens in A Christmas Carol , people burned coal or charcoal for heat. One scene has the gas workers on the street outside the Scrooge & Marley warehouse warming themselves by a fire. One wonders if maybe they burned horse manure that had been left on the street by passing vehicles.

Dickens says that the fog was so thick that people used candles and gas light before dark. The people in London may not have understood at the time, but the soot from the coal caused the fog.

The dirty London air reminds me of the clean air that the Magdalenian artists had at Altamira Cave. Maybe they had a source of natural gas. Or it could have been an animal or vegetable oil.


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You would think It was animal fat right? I don't know if that burns cleanly though.


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Yes, animal fat of a particular animal. Or something like beeswax. And I suppose it could have been natural gas that seeped through a crack in the wall. As near as I can tell, no one has studied it to see how the Altamiran artists might have lit the cave.

The Londoners, as I understand it, have stopped using coal, and the famous London fog has passed into history (or herstory).


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1801: “Coalbrookdale at Night”

Oil Painting by Philipp Jakob Loutherbourg at the Science Museum, London

This oil painting shows the Bedlam Furnaces along the river Severn at night. Light from the furnace surrounds a tall smokestack that is almost hidden by the light.

To one side of a road, three stone buildings (three story?) are behind a woman and a child who watch, two dogs, three men on the road. Miscellaneous debris, which might be wood spindles or perhaps scarp iron, litters both sides of the road along which two horse drawn carriages (probably wooden) move. In the distance, another large multistory-multismokestack building.

Loutherourg’s painting has at least one thing in common with the Altamira Cave and “A Christmas Carol”. All three record events as they happened.

At Altamira the people probably didn’t have dogs, and they ate the horses rather than hitched them to wagons. And at Altamira, they may have had some unknown energy source, but it probably was not coal (actually coke) like at Coalbrookdale.


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500 BC: A tribe of Central Asians buried a Sythian chief near what is now Altay, China.

About 80 years ago archaeologists found the chief's grave. In the grave they found a rug, now known as the Pazyryk Rug. For pictures google: pazyryk rug or try Pazyryk Rug . Most experts accept it as the oldest known rug. The Pazyryk weavers made the rug in the modern manner from wool. The rug has images of people on horseback and of moose. They must have used the horses to herd the woolly animals (sheep?), instead of for food like at Altamira. Maybe they ate moose meat. Probably they shipped the rugs along the Silk Road to China and Europe.

To get a sense of how these people lived, one might watch The Horseman, a movie with Omar Sharif. The movie is set 1500 years after the weavers made the rug, but except for the fact that the Central Asians have become Muslim, not much has changed. Or not, but that is our speculation.


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This thread contains information about thirteen works of art that record economic activity at twelve times in history.

9000 BC: Altamira Cave postings 1,2,3,4,6, cool cave picture at 4. posted by alexkidd

9000 BC: Altay Cave Paintings, China posting 26

1600's BC "Genesis 34," Bible posting 17

1500's BC: "Book of Job," Bible posting 14

500's BC: Pazyryk rug. posting 11

1347: Burghers of Calais posting 19

1801: "Coalbrookdale at Night" posting 10

1833: "Saint Louis from the River Below" by George Catlin posting 15

1843: London, A Christmas Carol posting 7

1880: Dakota Territory, Health Care Little House on the Prairie posting 23

1900's: Mid Twentieth Century as seen by Ernie Ford posting 27

1933 The Homecoming by Earl Hamner, Jr posting 13

1941, August 19: "Bottom of the Sixth" by Norman Rockwell posting 18

1990: "Make Tamales" posting 20


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1933 The Homecoming by Earl Hamner, Jr

At Christmas in Virginia, Clay-boy goes into the forest to cut a Christmas tree. After he cuts the tree an albino deer confronts him.

“Crouched in his rapidly disappearing sanctuary, Clay-Boy searched about for a weapon. He found only the resinous pine knots. He lifted one. It would do for a club, but even as he hefted it, Clay-Boy knew it was no match for the slashing hooves. Once again the deer charged. Looking up, Clay-Boy could see the sweating nose, the strained visible breath, the wild bloodstained eyes.”

“Plunging his hand into the pocket of his father’s jacket, he grasped the box of kitchen matches. His hand trembled as he withdrew a match, and scratched it against the friction board until it lit. Holding the flame against the splintery underside of the pine knot he prayed that the knot would catch fire. One splinter caught flame, and then another and another. A drop of resin sputtered for a moment then sizzled and added fuel to the fire. It took only one match. Sheltering the small flame with his jacket, Clay-Boy waited. The flame grew and in moments the knot was a glowing torch.”

"The buck was poised for a new assault on the tree. He bound forward, raised his hooves and brought them crashing down through the limbs. At the same moment, Clay-Boy rose and thrust the flaming torch toward the buck’s face. The deer snorted at the insult, reared upward, and then bolted away from the tree, . . ."

So Clay-boy cut another Christmas tree and headed home, pine knot in hand to light the way.

We wonder if the Magdalenian people at Altamira might have used pine knots.


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1500's BC: "Book of Job," Bible

Tradition says that Job lived at the time of the Exodus. Some people think that might have been at the beginning of the Eqyptian New Kingdom. If that's right, maybe Egyptians used pine knots for light.

Job 41:19

New International Version

Firebrands stream from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out.

King James Version

Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

Firebrand and burning lamp might refer to a pine knot with "sparks of fire" coming from the "sputtering resin" like in Homecoming by Hamner.


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1833: Saint Louis from the River Below , a painting by George Catlin.

The painting shows the steamboat, Yellowstone, in the Mississippi River. The title has an odd ring to it when you consider that the view of the landscape is from the sky above, not the river below. It's a view the existed only in Catlin's imagination, unless maybe he had a hot air balloon to get up above the river. Or it could be from a bluff in South Saint Louis looking south and east along the river.


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