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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | I have an interesting question for anybody who wants to answer:
We are told throughout history of hero's such as Alexander the Great, and about how these people performed many heroic deeds
the question i have is, are these people really to be considered hero's?
Alexander slaughtered hundreds of lives in his time, and that to me makes him far from a hero, if you look at all the various 'hero's' down the years they all killed people
loss of life is the worst thing ever in the world to me and these people are not hero's at all in my eyes
whats everyone elses opinions? |  | |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | christa said:
mother teresa is a hero i think lol
i agree because she saved lives she wasn't the leader of a nation that killed people | | | |
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MonkeyMadness
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Join Date: Aug 2006 | christa said:
mother teresa is a hero i think lol
Just ruined what i said   | | | |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | cole said:
I think there is a distinction with the fact that they won something or earned some great feat, the fact that the slautered millions along the way seems to get swept under the carpet. Say for instance what is the difference between Hitler and Alexander the Great? one could argue they were both despots, dictators, murderers, so why is one vilified and one glorified - is it because one won and the other lost?
well said Cole that is exactly the kind of thing i am getting at  for me Alexander (drop the great) killed people and that does not make a hero | | | |
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cole
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Join Date: Apr 2006 | elite_dragon said: well said Cole that is exactly the kind of thing i am getting at for me Alexander (drop the great) killed people and that does not make a hero It does make you wonder that if Hitler had won would he be considered a great hero? regardless of the fact that he would have wiped out a entire race of people | | | | Edited: August 17, 2006 @ 19:18 |  |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | cole said:
It does make you wonder that if Hitler had won would he be considered a great hero?
it doesn't make me wonder mate had hitler won, then history would have been rewritten to make him look good, i have no doubt about that at all. After all would Adolf had wanted the history books to have called him a mass murdering f***head? i doubt it | | | |
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cole
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Join Date: Apr 2006 | elite_dragon said: it doesn't make me wonder mate had hitler won, then history would have been rewritten to make him look good, i have no doubt about that at all. After all would Adolf had wanted the history books to have called him a mass murdering f***head? i doubt it Oh i know he himself would have considered himself a hero but would have the rest of the world? but then i'm sure some of Turkey and Persian don't consider Alex the G all that great, whereas Cuba consider Castro to be a hero, certain south american countries think Che Chevera [spelling] was a hero but those in Boliva might not so i suppose it differs depending on who is doing the hero worshipping, whereas people like Mother Thersa are worldly hero worshipped. | | | |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | cole said:
Oh i know he himself would have considered himself a hero but would have the rest of the world? but then i'm sure some of Turkey and Persian don't consider Alex the G all that great, whereas Cuba consider Castro to be a hero, certain south american countries think Che Chevera [spelling] was a hero but those in Boliva might not so i suppose it differs depending on who is doing the hero worshipping, whereas people like Mother Thersa are worldly hero worshipped.
well had Hitler succeeded most of the world would have been under german control and would have been force fed the fact that Hitler was a hero, and i feel that by now we would all be believeing this exactly the same as we do about Alexander | | | |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | kerrigwen said: *Che Gueverra
The difference between Alexander and Adolf (besides that Alexander had more victories) - is in their attitude as well. Yes Alexander/his troops did kill quite a bit; but any nation/peoples he conquered were treated well - especially when compared to other conquerers throughout history. He didnt subjugate the natives or torture them or make them slaves...he just became their head of state, they entered the fold of Macedonia. Their day-to-day lives weren't drastically altered or the quality lessened.
Similar good things to be said of the Romans.
i do agree with you after all the Romans did so much for Britain when they were here but loss of life however small is a tragedy, no matter what Alexander did for the people that were left. This alone in my eyes makes him not a hero. | | | |
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Elite_Dragon
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | kerrigwen said:
I don't think loss of life is a 'tragedy'...not on the large scale. Yes, it is of course to the people that knew them and others that are very empathetic, but death's a part of life, and a part of war. You can't go through life being upset over everything that dies, you may as well stick your head in a hole rather than be that depressed all the time.
Excess death, now that's a problem.
i don't get depressed trust me but when it is loss of life that can be prevented then it is a tragedy | | | |
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