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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:42:56#106
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shinobinoz said:

Strange- kinda thought it was created by the CEO's and energy barons.



Do you really believe that? The Government are the energy barons. Do you realize that 75% of the price of gas is taxes due to "regulation?" And as I have stated earlier the CEO's are opportunistic, either looking for yield, or security.
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:44:04#107
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shinobinoz said:

Nothing says "i love you" better than money!

I would have never thought you a republican by heart.
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:48:08#108
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Hey, I've got to go to bed. But really shinobinoz, it really was nice having a civilized conversation with you. You all have a good night.

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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:50:37#109
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coolhand said:

Do you really believe that? The Government are the energy barons. Do you realize that 75% of the price of gas is taxes due to "regulation?" And as I have stated earlier the CEO's are opportunistic, either looking for yield, or security.


You'll have to link. I've always known it to be from the upper teens to the mid 20%.
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:51:27#110
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coolhand said:

Hey, I've got to go to bed. But really shinobinoz, it really was nice having a civilized conversation with you. You all have a good night.


Headed there myself.
Nighty night!
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:52:37#111
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Ellen said:

I would have never thought you a republican by heart.


I'm all over the board actually.
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:54:12#112
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shinobinoz said:

I'm all over the board actually.

That scares me.
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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:54:54#113
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You a nut that goes with the wind.

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New Post! Nov 04, 2009 @ 05:58:59#114
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shinobinoz said:

You'll have to link. I've always known it to be from the upper teens to the mid 20%.



You are talking about overt taxation and not the amount of government mandated regulations which are paid for by the company and then passed on to the consumer. This is the same principle which has kept airfare as high as it is and stifled American agriculture, all at the hands of the democrats. But unfortunately, due to the nature of the beast, as you say, and the spoils of war, no numbers can be quoted to any degree of accuracy because, we only hear what the "man" wants us to.
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New Post! Nov 05, 2009 @ 05:26:37#115
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coolhand said:

You are talking about overt taxation and not the amount of government mandated regulations which are paid for by the company and then passed on to the consumer. This is the same principle which has kept airfare as high as it is and stifled American agriculture, all at the hands of the democrats. But unfortunately, due to the nature of the beast, as you say, and the spoils of war, no numbers can be quoted to any degree of accuracy because, we only hear what the "man" wants us to.


Link?
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New Post! Nov 05, 2009 @ 14:02:28#116
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shinobinoz said:

You'll have to link. I've always known it to be from the upper teens to the mid 20%.


In New York, the state collects about 40 cents per gallon, the feds collect about 18.4 cents per gallon, and the county collects anywhere from 8 to 20 cents per gallon, for a total of around 74 or so cents per gallon on average. Total around 27% of the price you pay for gasoline is tax.

NY is on the higher end of things. National average appears to be 20-23% or so.
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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 02:13:33#117
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jonnythan said:

In New York, the state collects about 40 cents per gallon, the feds collect about 18.4 cents per gallon, and the county collects anywhere from 8 to 20 cents per gallon, for a total of around 74 or so cents per gallon on average. Total around 27% of the price you pay for gasoline is tax.

NY is on the higher end of things. National average appears to be 20-23% or so.


As I said, upper teens to the mid 20's. Coolhand wants to tout 75% without providing any proof.
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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 02:16:16#118
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shinobinoz said:

As I said, upper teens to the mid 20's. Coolhand wants to tout 75% without providing any proof.


I believe they get fuel taxes that high in the UK, but not the US.

Though they are very high in the US as well.
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New Post! Jan 08, 2010 @ 07:59:16#119
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There really can be no proof found. The overt taxation of energy does lay around 20%, but the cost of regulation, which does not give a damn about what cost is past on to the consumer, is hard to place value on. This green bulls*** line is killing our country.

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New Post! Jan 08, 2010 @ 08:00:02#120
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I meant passed. Forgive me, I'm drunk.

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