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Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:45:50

coolhand

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Can anyone here explain the difference between a conservative and a libertarian?

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:47:10

jmo

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Nah, both tits.

On <span style='color:#cc6633;'>57 minutes ago </span>

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:48:06

coolhand

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jmo said:

Nah, both tits.

So, you don't believe in individual liberties.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:49:23

shinobinoz

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coolhand said:

Can anyone here explain the difference between a conservative and a libertarian?

I believe a libertarian is more for individual rights (even at the expense of the overall community) and conservatives are for individual rights that they do not preceive as liberal ideas? My experience anyways.

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Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:51:08

coolhand

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shinobinoz said:

I believe a libertarian is more for individual rights (even at the expense of the overall community) and conservatives are for individual rights that they do not preceive as liberal ideas? My experience anyways.

In my experience, though, "liberal" ideas equate to loss of rights.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:53:02

coolhand

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And also, could you explain to me how individual rights could impede on the overall community, in that the entire community has there individual rights?

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:53:42

jmo

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coolhand said:

So, you don't believe in individual liberties.

Nope, believe that through our common endeavor we can achieve more than we could alone.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:54:54

shinobinoz

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coolhand said:

In my experience, though, "liberal" ideas equate to loss of rights.

That's what some say. Not part of the definition though.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:55:04

coolhand

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jmo said:

Nope, believe that through our common endeavor we can achieve more than we could alone.

So you believe that the individual is incapable of achieving?

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:55:51

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coolhand

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Or perhaps needs the "loving hand of the God-State."

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:56:36

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coolhand said:

So you believe that the individual is incapable of achieving?

No

2 out of 10.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:57:28

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coolhand said:

In my experience, though, "liberal" ideas equate to loss of rights.

Eh, kinda. With libertarians they will support a lot of liberal ideals that give freedom to the individual just like they'll support many conservative ideals that give more freedom to individuals.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:57:42

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coolhand said:

And also, could you explain to me how individual rights could impede on the overall community, in that the entire community has there individual rights?

Sure, it becomes buyer beware mentality where government nor states are able to move against the individual and people start losing their protections. I know it was not meant to be- but like you pointed out with liberalism, the final result is often NOT what the plan was.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:58:12

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shinobinoz said:

That's what some say. Not part of the definition though.

What I believe is lost in the years is the true meaning of the word liberal. In order to see this term for what it really is you have to state it as classical liberal or libertarian.

Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:59:34

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coolhand said:

What I believe is lost in the years is the true meaning of the word liberal. In order to see this term for what it really is you have to state it as classical liberal or libertarian.

Got the definition?

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