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Forum Index > Recreation > Pets & Animals | >> Cat & Dog foods--dry food, kibble etc. | | |
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odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | lilbear said:
My cat's all ate mice and birds, so why haven't they come out with a cat food that tastes like mice or birds yet?
because yours are outdoor cats & they are hunting, indoor cats are fed differently. |  | |
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odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | Tuna
Tuna is not an ideal food for cats for various reasons:
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Firstly, it can be a very addictive food for some cats, to the extent that they will refuse to eat anything else.
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The US Food and Drug Administration has guidelines on the amount of tuna that pregnant women can safely eat. However, the US Environmental Working Group, which worked on the studies with the FDA, believes that that human-grade tuna has unusually high levels of the toxic metal methylmercury. They recommend that pregnant women should not eat tuna at all, and that children should eat tuna no more often than once a week. Human-grade tuna tends to consist of the white "meat", while animal-grade tuna tends to consist of the lower grade red "meat", so, at least in theory, animal-grade tuna could contain more pollutants. A 2003 study in The Lancet indicates that eating tuna may not be a problem for pregnant women and children after all (Web MD has a report on this), but I think it might be wiser to err on the side of caution with a sick CRF cat.
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You might decide to feed human grade tuna instead, but that does not avoid another problem associated with tuna, namely vitamin B1 (thiamine) deficiency. Cats who eat tuna regularly can develop this problem - symptoms are often neurological and include dilation of the pupils, loss of balance, seizures and death if left untreated. Healthy Pet has information on this. Provet UK has information on this and on the dangers of feeding fish to cats generally.
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If you feed a cat any fish diet exclusively, the cat can develop a condition called steatitis (yellow fat disease), which is caused by a Vitamin E deficiency resulting from the imbalanced diet. Firstly the cat becomes very nervous, and then becomes hypersensitive in all the nerve endings of its skin, so it is very painful for the cat to be touched. The treatment is massive doses of vitamin E under a vet's supervision, and discontinuing any food containing vegetable oil or mineral oil because this will deplete the body's stores of vitamin E even more. Armed Forces Institute of Pathology discusses a case of steatitis in a cat (click on Case Study III) - this cat was put to sleep.
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Tuna lacks taurine, an amino acid which cats need to obtain from their food: a lack of taurine in a cat's diet can cause heart and eye problems. Baton Rouge Abyssinians has some information about taurine requirements in cats.
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One study, Evaluation of dietary and environmental risk factors for hyperthyroidism in cats (2000) Martin KM, Rossing MA, Ryland LM, DiGiacomo RF, Freitag WA Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association 217(6) pp853-856, found that "cats that preferred fish or liver and giblets flavors of canned cat food had an increased risk" of developing hyperthyroidism.
As you can see, feeding tuna regularly has some serious health implications for cats. A little tuna occasionally is unlikely to be cause for concern, but I would not recommend feeding it for any length of time or too often. One possible compromise is to add the water in which tuna is packed to your cat's prescription or other diet in order to make it more palatable. See tuna water for more information. | | | |
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odie
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Join Date: Sep 2007 | jonnythan said: I absolutely did read every word of the post. Perhaps you should read your own! 
Every single item in that list was a long-term effect, and not a single word of it lent any support whatsoever to the possibility of a cat dying (in any length of time) from eating a single tin - or even several tins - of tuna.
okay, jonnahan, you have won, I am tired of your arguments on this post, others and I had so much fun, we all enjoyed it except you.
shame on you for attacking me on this thread this way.
you have again, ruined an entirely fun thread.
This time, I have left because of you and trust me, I won't be back................even though you said you had left, and came back, I won't be. | | | | Edited: May 13, 2008 @ 02:29 |  |
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lilbear
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Join Date: Jan 2008 | odie said:
because yours are outdoor cats & they are hunting, indoor cats are fed differently.
My cats were outdoor and indoor cats, what's the difference? I still say it's in their nature to eat mice and birds. My question was only as to why they have never come out with cat food that tasted like mice or birds as per their nature.
You rarely see a cat attacking a cow, pig, or chickens and eating them. So the human brain matter that came up with all these ingredients to put in their food really didn't do a thorough study on exactly what a feline lives off of.
And I've had cats in the house that used to catch the mice that got in and ate them, it's in their nature, beef,pork,chicken isn't if we really wanted to get right down to it. We had cats on the farm when I was growing up and we had cows and horses,pigs and chickens. None of our cats went near them in an attempt to kill and eat them.
Any food that doesn't do them any harm and I'm sure not very many people really know which one's do or don't, no matter the research done on it, is fine in my opinion. 
BTW facts are not always documented right as proven many times down the road, some have been put up as fact only to be retracted months and even years later.
Sometimes just knowing about the topic first hand and common sense are the facts.
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