monkeymadness said:
edited for niceness too

Bless him

treebee said:
easy tiger, we all handle things differently.

monkeymadness said:
*Bono goes on stage to end world hunger because that is all he can do.*

Easy point there....anything else he does just wouldnt have as bigger impact.


*If going on stage was the only thing he could do to find his kid lost in the desert then he would.*

If you want to use such a stupid comparison you have to make them similar.

Obviously he could do more than sing to find his kid, but he cant do much more than he does to help strangers, it is just lucky for him that he enjoys what he does.




So now you are saying he should go and cook for all the starving people to end world hunger? Like he would go look for his son because that proves he cares, he should go cook for people who are starving.

Right.

jonnythan said:
Anything that brings the people helping others down to your "I don't care about others" level is sufficient

monkeymadness said:
Wrong, my girlfriend is going to run for the cancer charity and its not for anyone she knows, does this mean she can enjoy it?

cduck said:
Well, i think is what i'm saying...that you have to make such a sacrifice...otherwise it's contradictory to say you care...

cduck said:
I don't care about strangers!!!

treebee said:
ok what about funerals? I've been to many and the mostly end up with some laughter. We have our sombre moments but inevitably we end up laughing about when old so and so did this or that.

Basically most people need some kind of relief from feelings of sorrow and sadness. If we allowed them to consume us and take over our lives then we would have absolutely no quality of life.

No one really close to me has died, but yeah we are all different and i'm not going say that the fact that ppl who use humour at funerals like you said proves that they didn't care but if the person i love most in this world died..i'd never be anything other than serious about it!I'd be too traumatised...but then maybe in 20 or 30 years it wld. seem different and i might be like you describe ppl being like in funerals!


You remember Live Aid im sure, it was touching, it was the first time the world had ever seen anything like it. Those people singing and dancing in the stands were also crying when they saw the starving. You cannot dispute that they cared.

Well, at that moment...but this is what my point is...it passes and if you really care then it doesn't pass. You can't turn it on and off like a tap, which is what my gripe about Bono is!

Perhaps you personally cduck have to feel engulfed in empathy, sympathy, sorrow and sadness in order to feel as though you are doing the right thing. Some people do, its like when something terrible happens it is appropriate to have a period of feeling extremely low and sad. On the other hand a lot of people have to create positivity out of a bad situation. It is also a defence mechanism. We all work differently. If this makes sense.

monkeymadness said:
I think the problem here might be that is that cduck is a person who doesn't know that people are capable of feeling more than one emotion at the same timemaybe, i dunno just throwing that out there

Bless him

*edited for niceness*

monkeymadness said:
A sacrifice? Like donating your hard earned cash and spending your own time organising and then all night entertaining other people (half of which wont even donate)
And lets not forget that he prolly contributes to the costs of putting the show on as well.

cduck said:
Well i just don't like being a fraud and saying i care about ppl starving or whatever one minute then lightin' up a joint the next!
Basically, i think ppl only do it 'cause if you don't you're put under a lot of pressure by ppl who do say it...hypocritically!

jonnythan said:
Indeed.

And you have to find a way to convince yourself that anyone actually doing tons of stuff to help strangers doesn't care about them either.


*shrug*

Whatever helps you sleep at night without feeling too depressed.

treebee said:
Ok well you are entitled to your opinion and i'm not trying to change it. It differs to mine, we all have our ways of showing that we care. I personally believe it is perfectly acceptable and human to let off steam and laugh a little in the face of the hardest adversity. Psychology teaches that we all have different coping mechanisms.