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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 03:03:34#1
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Abortion is a hard topic because people get so upset and judge you on your beliefs. I am pro-choice. Now for all of you pro-life people, pro-choice does not mean that i am promoting abortions. I think abortions are the hardest things a female could go through. But who am I, to tell a female what she can and can not do with her body.

Its ridiculous how upset men get over this issue. We are not the people going through it so i do not know what makes us so passionate about it. ( I am in no way saying that human life and human dignity is not sumthing to get passionate about) Im saying we have no right to tell a female what to do with her body.

If you agree please comment..
if you disagree, please enlighten me

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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 03:10:51#2
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"Im saying we have no right to tell a female what to do with her body."

Don't really want to get into a debate here, but if the man in question is the father of the baby, he absolutely should have as much say as the woman in what happens to that child; it is after all, his child too!





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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 03:30:02#3
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I agree to both posts here...

Hellyeah its tough issue to handle, it always depends on where your POV is coming from.

And i agree loveis, poor dads usually dont get the say they should be entitled to, do they?





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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 03:30:12#4
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I will agree with you on that. The father of the child should be able to tell the mother what he thinks. Ultimately, however, it is up to the mother.

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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 04:09:57#5
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A child should really be wanted(just my opinion) so abortion is acceptable when no child is desired.




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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 04:31:39#6
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The father has a say in the decision making, but the mommy has to feel that the daddy will be responsible and assist in the raising of the child. The daddy many times may get up in arms about wanting the child, and then have nothing to do with the baby once it is born.

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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 04:54:43#7
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wrestler1 said:

Abortion is a hard topic because people get so upset and judge you on your beliefs. I am pro-choice. Now for all of you pro-life people, pro-choice does not mean that i am promoting abortions. I think abortions are the hardest things a female could go through. But who am I, to tell a female what she can and can not do with her body.

Its ridiculous how upset men get over this issue. We are not the people going through it so i do not know what makes us so passionate about it. ( I am in no way saying that human life and human dignity is not something to get passionate about) Im saying we have no right to tell a female what to do with her body.

If you agree please comment..
if you disagree, please enlighten me


I'm pro choice .
As a mother of 2. I appreciate your comments on it being the females decision in the end. But the choice to do the things that make pregnancy happen was made by 2 people (unless it was rape) and IMO the dad should have the same involvement in any decisions concerning the outcome ,as the mom. After all if she decides to keep the baby with or without consulting the dad it's a pretty sure bet that she's going to be expecting child support from him. Even when both parents are in agreement it still has to be a very hardest decisions a female will ever have to decide . You say men have no right to tell a female what to do with her body , your right , but does a female have the right to tell you what should be done with your child ? An unexpected pregnancy is complicated for all involved . It may be a bit easier for the female if both adults are in agreement simply because of the support , financial and emotional .
It's a complicated situation trying to figure out where to draw the line when it is her body but their baby.But life is complacated and decideing about another life shouldn't be an easy greasy deal. IMO..



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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 21:03:51#8
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Do you think that a woman/wife should have the right to go to an abortion clinic and sign off on an abortion without her husband/the father?

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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 21:17:09#9
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The thing is many people don't see the fetus as just part of a woman's body. Yes, it is of course in the woman's body, but most pro-lifers see the fetus as a separate, individual life, with certain rights.

If you really thought that a living being's life was at stake it probably wouldn't be as easy as "Oh well it's a woman's body and she can do whatever she wants with it." For people who are pro-life, the fetus isn't like an arm or a leg. It's like another person.

Abortion is indeed an extremely complicated issue.




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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 21:47:09#10
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i believe abortion is wrong,for me personaly.that is my choice it does not give me the right to dictate to another woman that its wrong for her to.no man or woman has the right to tell another they have to carry a child for nine months and go through hours of labour.if that is not their choice to.this is endless debate because there is so many issues to take into account.i seriously think the time limit on abortions should be lowered as at present the gestation time limit is way to high.i think a woman has an obligation to tell the father but as for him having a right to say she has to carry a child.nope,i think thats one step to far.




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New Post! Sep 19, 2009 @ 22:26:24#11
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i appreciate you saying you do not have a right to dictate to another woman what it is she has to do with her life and body. i respect your position on this issue.

I find it disturbing when people make abortions seem like murder. And the resolution of "give the baby up for adoption or put the baby in a foster home" is also disturbing. Most pro-life people make a fuss about having the baby, but wont do a thing for that child once it is born. The foster homes are very populated and it is extremely hard to find a couple who are willing to adopt that baby. And why would you preach to a woman to bring a child into a world if the mother can not afford health insurance for the baby?

i agree, there are so many variables to take into account when debating about abortion.

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New Post! Sep 29, 2009 @ 00:53:00#13
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wrestler1 said:

i appreciate you saying you do not have a right to dictate to another woman what it is she has to do with her life and body. i respect your position on this issue.

I find it disturbing when people make abortions seem like murder. And the resolution of "give the baby up for adoption or put the baby in a foster home" is also disturbing. Most pro-life people make a fuss about having the baby, but wont do a thing for that child once it is born. The foster homes are very populated and it is extremely hard to find a couple who are willing to adopt that baby. And why would you preach to a woman to bring a child into a world if the mother can not afford health insurance for the baby?

i agree, there are so many variables to take into account when debating about abortion.


L am pro choice I am very glad there are clean and medically supervised places an abortion can be done. with that said.
I personally would never choose to have a pregnancy terminated.

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wrestler1said ,I find it disturbing when people make abortions seem like murder.

And I on the other hand am disturbed when people speak of an fetus/unborn child as just so much organic matter with no connection to a human being and there fore unimportant.
I figure at this point in time there can't be 'a right of it or wrong of it' on the issue of abortion, it just has to be a personal choice for each individual and the most anyone can hope for is that people will stop trying to force others to think or feel in anyway that isn't by choice. The question of how much involvement should the father have in the decision should be the priority now .IMO



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New Post! Sep 29, 2009 @ 00:56:24#14
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IMO the entire debate hinges on two things:

1) At what point exactly you believe an embryo/fetus becomes human. This is really tough because, conceptually, even a young fetus has its own blood type, own organs, own DNA, etc.

2) How you balance the practicality of allowing abortions versus protecting the sanctity of human life.




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New Post! Sep 29, 2009 @ 00:58:27#15
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Also, I want to make a point.

I'm not taking a stand that's pro-choice or pro-life.

However, I do want to say that a fetus is not part of a mother's body. The mother is the host, but a fetus is a separate, living, independent organism. That is a simple scientific fact.




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