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 Apr 20, 2008 @ 14:50:13 | #1 | amish
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Join Date: Feb 2008 | hillary tells ridiculous and pointless lies in the style of a 4 year old
where did the story about sniper fire come from? from bill, i would expect it. i never liked bill. it would also be forgivable from the imaginative mind of a small child, "mommy i went to bosnia and there were people shooting, but i was brave!" and a scandal is one thing, but this is just pathetic. it's also typical of the clintons, who might as well be lying about which party they belong to.
hillary and rush limbaugh could be best friends
hillary's campaign tactics are completely right wing. watching her talk about obama is like listening to rush limbaugh. i don't think i could stand 4 years of listening to her deal with opponents that way.
hillary doesn't seem to care if a member of her party gets in or not
i understand there's going to be an element of looking out for yourself in any campaign, but let's face it, there's never been much more at stake in who gets elected. i like mccain better than hillary (i won't vote for him though) but it bothers me to see her jeopardize the democratic party's chances with her bulls**t, which i think it's safe to say is happening, not by running, but how she runs.
hillary voted for fascism
a vote for the patriot act is a vote against the constitution. hillary did exactly that- twice. how anyone can vote against their own rights as citizens by supporting a politician like that is unbelievable.
hillary is an accessory to war crime
iraq is an illegal war. in our constitution we are supposed to honor treaties as our county is a citizen in an international community. the u.n. aside, we are violating the treaties we've signed, and at cost to the lives and safety of every american, particularly our soldiers, not to mention civilians around the world. hillary voted in favor of this fake war, and that's not enough to bother her liberal supporters, why?
hillary is owned by the medical industry
if there is one good thing about hillary clinton, it's her original views on health care. of course she makes promises about health care now, she lies like a 4 year old (and like her husband, who at least lied about something that's debateably none of our business to ask about.) i don't want to bring michael moore into it, but how much money did hillary receive from the corrupt insurance industry that her politics from her first lady days would affect, and why did they give her that money?
hillary is at best, a marginal democrat
i am really tired of the democratic party propping up people that sell out not only the country, but that sell out the democratic party, always compromising everything that would make them "left wing" in the first place. "left" may sound like a bad word to some people these days, but only because of faux news and other political spew. if you stand for democratic values, hillary is certainly no bastion of them, although prior to 2001, she may have had an interesting career. i never liked either of the clintons, because my values are more liberal than theirs were even in 1996. hillary's voting record as senator is pretty right wing for a democrat, in fact that's not even fair to most of america's republicans from its beginning. the early republicans voted in favor of the constitution.
hillary should have started campaigning a long time ago
i'm always waiting for her to talk about issues. i feel like her campaign is a pep rally at a time when our country is trying to get out of all kinds of messes i never thought we'd have to face as a nation, including ones she contributed to. okay, campaigns are going to be pep rallies, but could we at least maintain the illusion that there are important things that need to be done, other than electing hillary? this is all that much worse in light of the other reasons not to vote for her.
hillary is an old politician
i'm sure there is room for politicians that are old. mccain is older and i like him better than hillary. there are not many reasons that i do. he was/is also for the war, that's the biggest reason i won't vote for him, he's also right wing, but i have less against the old kind of republican. when i say hillary is an old politician, i mean she's a politician from an era where left wing means nothing and right wing means a fascist that wants biblical politics. obama is a christian and there's nothing wrong with that, but read the bible- biblical politics sucked! all this talk about "experience..." if experience is all that counts, mccain has more than hillary, right?... takes us around the issue that we need change, and the left wants change, not 4 more years of right wing bulls**t. hillary is old, and needs to step down. an old politician running at this time is going to cost liberals the white house, and even if one wins, it will cost us improvement that we are desparately in need of. obama may be an old politican too, it remains to be seen as hillary would love to remind us, but that's no reason to vote for a marginal democrat with a damnable political history, just because we know what we're getting.
it's not about gender, or about race
pointing out the obvious here, hillary is a woman, obama is black. this is one that is won either way, and lost neither way. either one is progressive (for this country of too many sexist and racist voters,) although if there happened to be a candidate better suited than hillary or obama, that could lead us away from the path we've been on for the last 8 years i'd offer my support even if he was a white male. as nice as it is to see that we finally live in a time where blacks and women have a real opportunity to get to the white house, gender and race should certainly never be the first priority. i think being female is the only winning trait clinton has. would you vote for 4 more years of bill, if someone more liberal was running against him? would being a woman make him a better candidate? this election transcends gender and race, the voters should as well.
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| Apr 20, 2008 @ 21:46:31 | #4 | diomedes
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Join Date: Oct 2007 | amish said:
hillary tells ridiculous and pointless lies in the style of a 4 year old
where did the story about sniper fire come from? from bill, i would expect it. i never liked bill. it would also be forgivable from the imaginative mind of a small child, "mommy i went to bosnia and there were people shooting, but i was brave!" and a scandal is one thing, but this is just pathetic. it's also typical of the clintons, who might as well be lying about which party they belong to.
hillary and rush limbaugh could be best friends
hillary's campaign tactics are completely right wing. watching her talk about obama is like listening to rush limbaugh. i don't think i could stand 4 years of listening to her deal with opponents that way.
hillary doesn't seem to care if a member of her party gets in or not
i understand there's going to be an element of looking out for yourself in any campaign, but let's face it, there's never been much more at stake in who gets elected. i like mccain better than hillary (i won't vote for him though) but it bothers me to see her jeopardize the democratic party's chances with her bulls**t, which i think it's safe to say is happening, not by running, but how she runs.
hillary voted for fascism
a vote for the patriot act is a vote against the constitution. hillary did exactly that- twice. how anyone can vote against their own rights as citizens by supporting a politician like that is unbelievable.
hillary is an accessory to war crime
iraq is an illegal war. in our constitution we are supposed to honor treaties as our county is a citizen in an international community. the u.n. aside, we are violating the treaties we've signed, and at cost to the lives and safety of every american, particularly our soldiers, not to mention civilians around the world. hillary voted in favor of this fake war, and that's not enough to bother her liberal supporters, why?
hillary is owned by the medical industry
if there is one good thing about hillary clinton, it's her original views on health care. of course she makes promises about health care now, she lies like a 4 year old (and like her husband, who at least lied about something that's debateably none of our business to ask about.) i don't want to bring michael moore into it, but how much money did hillary receive from the corrupt insurance industry that her politics from her first lady days would affect, and why did they give her that money?
hillary is at best, a marginal democrat
i am really tired of the democratic party propping up people that sell out not only the country, but that sell out the democratic party, always compromising everything that would make them "left wing" in the first place. "left" may sound like a bad word to some people these days, but only because of faux news and other political spew. if you stand for democratic values, hillary is certainly no bastion of them, although prior to 2001, she may have had an interesting career. i never liked either of the clintons, because my values are more liberal than theirs were even in 1996. hillary's voting record as senator is pretty right wing for a democrat, in fact that's not even fair to most of america's republicans from its beginning. the early republicans voted in favor of the constitution.
hillary should have started campaigning a long time ago
i'm always waiting for her to talk about issues. i feel like her campaign is a pep rally at a time when our country is trying to get out of all kinds of messes i never thought we'd have to face as a nation, including ones she contributed to. okay, campaigns are going to be pep rallies, but could we at least maintain the illusion that there are important things that need to be done, other than electing hillary? this is all that much worse in light of the other reasons not to vote for her.
hillary is an old politician
i'm sure there is room for politicians that are old. mccain is older and i like him better than hillary. there are not many reasons that i do. he was/is also for the war, that's the biggest reason i won't vote for him, he's also right wing, but i have less against the old kind of republican. when i say hillary is an old politician, i mean she's a politician from an era where left wing means nothing and right wing means a fascist that wants biblical politics. obama is a christian and there's nothing wrong with that, but read the bible- biblical politics sucked! all this talk about "experience..." if experience is all that counts, mccain has more than hillary, right?... takes us around the issue that we need change, and the left wants change, not 4 more years of right wing bulls**t. hillary is old, and needs to step down. an old politician running at this time is going to cost liberals the white house, and even if one wins, it will cost us improvement that we are desparately in need of. obama may be an old politican too, it remains to be seen as hillary would love to remind us, but that's no reason to vote for a marginal democrat with a damnable political history, just because we know what we're getting.
it's not about gender, or about race
pointing out the obvious here, hillary is a woman, obama is black. this is one that is won either way, and lost neither way. either one is progressive (for this country of too many sexist and racist voters,) although if there happened to be a candidate better suited than hillary or obama, that could lead us away from the path we've been on for the last 8 years i'd offer my support even if he was a white male. as nice as it is to see that we finally live in a time where blacks and women have a real opportunity to get to the white house, gender and race should certainly never be the first priority. i think being female is the only winning trait clinton has. would you vote for 4 more years of bill, if someone more liberal was running against him? would being a woman make him a better candidate? this election transcends gender and race, the voters should as well.
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