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Oct 16, 2008 @ 22:34:17

#122

jonnythan

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stardar said:

I can't trust you

Thankfully, you don't have to. I gave six straight quotes with links to sites saying the exact same thing. And HowStuffWorks, Encarta, and Cars.com are not exactly nobodies who don't know what they're talking about.

Diesel engines are more efficient than comparable gasoline engines. It's a fact. Accept it.

stardar said:
When I am shown with 10-15 MPG for a truck in comparison to a car with 30 MPG such as mine which is a sedan

You're comparing a small car to a truck. Gasoline trucks get even poorer fuel economy than diesel trucks.

Oct 16, 2008 @ 22:39:32

#123

04EXCURSION

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stardar said:

Wheres your source for that information? If that's true then why does something with diesel running it getting around 10 MPG than a gas car that's getting around 25 MPG?
Another question is, if diesel is so much better, why wouldn't cars have it, instead of big bulky trucks or SUV's?

your comparing 4+ ton vehicles to 1 ton cars? theres a huge difference, and what truck with a diesel gets 10 MPG? a semi? imagine a semi with a gas engine, it would get like 2 MPG. if you take a ford f350 with a gas engine it get's roughly 10 mpg, you take the same exact truck with a diesel engine it jumps up to 17, and cars do have diesel engines, some mercedes, volvos, and suppsoedly the 2009 mitsubishi lancer will have a diesel

Oct 16, 2008 @ 22:53:33

#124

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jonnythan said:

No, they absolutely do not, unless you're comparing a 130-hp engine in a Toyota Corolla to a 350-hp engine in a Ford F350 pickup truck.

Look at Volkswagen and Mercedes, both of whom offer vehicles with either a gasoline engine or a diesel engine. In every single case, the diesel engine gets 20-40% better fuel efficiency.

I was doing my comparison based on the assumption that most diesel engines out there are in larger vehicles (semis, buses, large trucks, etc.). In any case, fossil fuel is terrible for the environment and your health.

Diesel vs. Gasoline

I've always been afraid to die
But I think I'm more afraid to live

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Oct 16, 2008 @ 23:11:33

#125

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Well then like 04EXCURSION said take a comparison of a regular motor F-350 and a diesel. Or a regular and diesel jetta or mercedes or anything else that makes both as an option!

Oct 17, 2008 @ 00:47:12

#126

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Ford Super Duty F250:

6.4L, V-8 Power Stroke diesel
City traffic: 18.28 mpg
Grapevine pass with cruise control: 19.08 mpg

6.8L, V-10 Triton gasoline
City traffic: 8.95 mpg
Grapevine pass with cruise control: 12.55 mpg

Volkswagen Jetta:
The 170 hp gasoline Jetta gets 20/29 mpg.
The 140 hp diesel Jetta gets 29/40 mpg

So in both of these vehicles, the diesel engine is MUCH more fuel efficient. The diesel in the truck produces 40% more torque, too.

Anyone want to try to tell me that diesels are less efficient? Or that it takes 2 gallons of diesel to equal 1 gallon of gasoline?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

Oct 17, 2008 @ 00:51:09

#127

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NICE!!! My dad's friend has an F-250 with the V-10 FAIL!

Oct 21, 2008 @ 00:15:37

#128

spaceboy01

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RobbyF said:

Well then like 04EXCURSION said take a comparison of a regular motor F-350 and a diesel. Or a regular and diesel jetta or mercedes or anything else that makes both as an option!

Nah. I'm not browsing the web for his benefit. LMAO

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But I think I'm more afraid to live

Oct 21, 2008 @ 02:13:15

#129

stardar

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spaceboy01 said:

Nah. I'm not browsing the web for his benefit. LMAO

I think you forgot this quote:

04EXCURSION said:

lol, why should i do your work for you, I don't care if you believe me or not, it's not going to stop me from buying a truck. secondly Diesel is better than gas. thirdly, we don't have rednecks in Long Beach, they live in the south, and the east coast. if im an ignorant redneck then you would be an ignorant tree hugger

Or this funny one. Yeah... listen to this guy. LOL

04EXCURSION said:

no, i just love the sound. half the fun of a great vehicle,is how fast it is, the other half is how loud it is. loud vehicles are great. there's nothing fascinating about a muscle car if it sounds like a camry. monster trucks wouldn't be as popular if they were as loud as your off the lot F150

^If that isn't redneck, I don't know what is.

I need a monster truck, so I can run over this guy's excursion.

Oct 21, 2008 @ 09:25:21

#130

04EXCURSION

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stardar said:

I think you forgot this quote:

Or this funny one. Yeah... listen to this guy. LOL

^If that isn't redneck, I don't know what is.

I need a monster truck, so I can run over this guy's excursion.

dont make me quote everything you've said this entire forum which has no facts what so ever, you have no idea what you're talking about, when there has been multiple links put on here giving you the "real" facts

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