yeah right, aninal testing

One famous method of testing is the irritancy test, in which potentially harmful products are dripped into the eyes of test animals (usually rabbits).

The harmfulness of the product is then assessed depending on
the size of the area injured, the opacity of the cornea, and the degree of redness, swelling and discharge of the conjunctivae, and in more severe cases, on the blistering or gross destruction of the cornea.

The truth is that many animals could be spared in many ways if only certain 'people' werent so mean.

Since you won't read it in the other thread, I'll copy and past it to this one.


Here ya go !

For those of you who are agenst animal testing here is a list of companies and products you can thank. I included thier numbers too. Give them a call and tell them how much you have enjoyed their products and how due to your moral stand point you will stop using thier products.

I bet you will find your house strangly empty, almost as empty as your hypocrital arguements.

Arm & Hammer (Church & Dwight), P.O. Box 1625, Horsham, PA 19044-6625; 609-683-5900; 800-524-1328; www.armhammer.com

Bic Corporation, 500 Bic Dr., Milford, CT 06460; 203-783-2000; www.bicworld.com

Chesebrough-Ponds (Fabergé, Ponds, Vaseline), 800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 800-743-8640; www.pondssquad.com

Church & Dwight (Aim, Arm & Hammer, Arrid, Brillo, Close-up, Lady’s Choice, Mentadent, Nair, Orange Glo International, Pearl Drops), P.O. Box 1625, Horsham, PA 19044-6625; 609-683-5900; 800-524-1328; www.churchdwight.com

Clairol (Aussie, Daily Defense, Herbal Essences, Infusium 23, Procter & Gamble), 1 Blachley Rd., Stamford, CT 06922; 800-252-4765; www.clairol.com

Clorox (ArmorAll, Formula 409, Fresh Step, Glad, Liquid Plumber, Pine-Sol, Soft Scrub, S.O.S., Tilex), 1221 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612; 510-271-7000; 800-227-1860; www.clorox.com

Colgate-Palmolive Co. (Hills Pet Nutrition, Mennen, Palmolive, SoftSoap, Speed Stick), 300 Park Ave., New York, NY 10022; 212-310-2000; 800-221-4607; www.colgate.com

Cover Girl (Procter & Gamble), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745; www.covergirl.com

Dial Corporation (Dry Idea, Purex, Renuzit, Right Guard, Soft & Dri), 15101 N. Scottsdale Rd., Ste. 5028, Scottsdale, AZ 85254-2199; 800-528-0849; www.dialcorp.com

Johnson & Johnson (Aveeno, Clean & Clear, Listerine, Lubriderm, Neutrogena, Rembrandt, ROC), 1 Johnson & Johnson Plz., New Brunswick, NJ 08933; 732-524-0400; 800-526-3967; www.jnj.com

Lever Bros. (Unilever), 800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-598-1223; www.unilever.com

L’Oréal U.S.A. (Biotherm, Cacharel, Garnier, Giorgio Armani, Helena Rubinstein, Lancôme, Matrix Essentials, Maybelline, Ralph Lauren Fragrances, Redken, Soft Sheen, Vichy), 575 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10017; 212-818-1500; www.loreal.com

Max Factor (Procter & Gamble), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745; www.maxfactor.com Mead, 10 W. Second St., #1, Dayton, OH 45402; 937-495-6323; www.meadweb.comMelaleuca, 3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy., Idaho Falls, ID 83402-6003; 208-522-0700; www.melaleuca.com

Mennen Co. (Colgate-Palmolive), 191 E. Hanover Ave., Morristown, NJ 07960-3151; 973-631-9000; www.colgate.com New Dana Perfumes, 470 Oakhill Rd., Crestwood Industrial Park, Mountaintop, PA 18707; 800-822-8547

Noxell (Procter & Gamble), 11050 York Rd., Hunt Valley, MD 21030-2098; 410-785-7300; 800-572-3232;

www.pg.com Olay Co./Oil of Olay (Procter & Gamble), P.O. Box 599, Cincinnati, OH 45201; 800-543-1745; www.oilofolay.com

Oral-B (Procter & Gamble), 600 Clipper Dr., Belmont, CA 94002-4119; 415-598-5000; www.oralb.com

Pantene (Procter & Gamble), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 800-945-7768; www.pantene.com

Physique (Procter & Gamble), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 800-214-8957; www.physique.com

Playtex Products (Banana Boat), 300 Nyala Farms Rd., Westport, CT 06880; 203-341-4000; www.playtex.com

Procter & Gamble Co. (Clairol, Cover Girl, Crest, Gillette, Giorgio, Iams, Max Factor, Physique, Tide), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745; www.pg.com Reckitt

Benckiser (Easy Off, Lysol, Mop & Glo, Old English, Resolve, Spray ’N Wash, Veet, Woolite), 399 Interpace Pkwy., Parsippany, NJ 07054; 973-633-3600; 800-333-3899; www.reckittbenckiser.com

Richardson-Vicks (Procter & Gamble), One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745; www.pg.com

Schering-Plough (Bain de Soleil, Coppertone, Dr. Scholl’s), 2000 Galloping Hill Rd., Kenilworth, NJ 07033-0530; 800-842-4090; www.sch-plough.com

S.C. Johnson (Drano, Edge, Fantastik, Glade, OFF!, Oust, Pledge, Scrubbing Bubbles, Shout, Skintimate, Windex, Ziploc), 1525 Howe St., Racine, WI 53403; 800-494-4855; www.scjohnson.com

SoftSoap Enterprises (Colgate-Palmolive), 300 Park Ave., New York, NY 10022; 800-221-4607; www.colgate.com Suave (Unilever), 800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-782-8301; www.suave.com

Unilever (Axe, Dove, Lever Bros., Suave, Sunsilk), 800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-598-1223; www.unilever.com



AND AFTER THAT!!!

I did some research on some of the cool stuff in eye liner and how its ingredients are tested.

Titanium Dioxide--

Its one of the primary ingredents in eye liner and most makeup. A carcinogen is a substance that causes a cellular malfunction, causing the cell to become cancerous and thus potentially lethal to the surrounding tissue and ultimately the body as these rapidly growing mutated cells take over. With the surge in cancer rates among all segments of the population, many people are attempting to reduce or eliminate their exposure to carcinogens.

Titanium dioxide is regarded as an inert, non-toxic substance by many regulatory bodies such as the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) and others charged with the responsibility of safeguarding the health of occupational workers and public health. The MSDS states that titanium dioxide can cause some lung fibrosis at fifty times the nuisance dust, defined by the US Department of Labor as 15 mg/m cubed (OSHA) or 10 mg/m cubed (ACGIH Threshold Limit Value). The ACGIH states that titanium dioxide is "not classifiable as a human carcinogen". Symptoms of chronic overexposure to titanium dioxide in an industrial setting, according to the MSDS, include a "slight increase in lung tumour incidence in lab rats". It also states "when titanium dioxide was fed to rats/mice in a carcinogen bioassay, it was not carcinogenic". The NIOSH declares that at 5000 mg/m cubed there was slight lung fibrosis, concluding that this substance was carcinogenic in rats.


Without labratory animal testing we wouldn't know if that eye liner was going to kill you in 20 years. Turns out, it probly will so now that we have done testing on cute little animals we can properly give you information vs speculation.

Now you said you are wearing some sort of special non animal tested eye liner, I would like to know the brand and its ingredents, because from what I can find its impossible to wear makeup other than charcoal without exploting a animal in some way.


ANd after that !


I then answered with the continual ANIMAL testing on the hazards of Titanium Dioxide link [www.epa.gov] one of the primary incredents in most makeup.

They found that even if you where to eat an entire stick of eyeliner every day for the rest of your life, you MIGHT get some random illness. Do you know how they figured this out? They tested it on animals. Two groups of 50 per sex of Fischer 344 rats and B6C3F1 mice. Thats 200 fuzzy little creatures that died spacificly for you. They where created/breed with the explicit intention of them being feed YOUR eye liner.

Now recent ANIMAL testing has come to the conclusion that the original EPA tests where not accurate for whatever reason. They are finding that you can absorb some of the toxins from your eyeliner.

link [www.theorganicmakeupcompany.com]

This is just ONE of the many chemicals in your "Sephoria" eye liner.

Here are the others:

Black:
Hydrogenated Palm Oil, Hydrogenated Coco-Glycerides, Cetyl Laurate, Beeswax, Stearic Acid, Stearyl Stearate, Tocopherol, Organic Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Organic Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Extract, Organic Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil. May Contain: Black Iron Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Red Iron Oxide, Yellow Iron Oxide.

link [www.sephora.com]



Now I'm going to take a guess that you don't wear JUST eye liner. I'm guessing that you use soap( god I hope so), shampoo, perfume, gel-moose-hairspray whatever. If you took a closer look on every single one of the products in YOUR bathroom and tallied up all of the dead animals it took to make sure each one of those products didn't kill you. It would fill your house 10 times over with dead mice,rats,bunnies,monkeys and god only knows what else.

My goal isn't to totaly slam dunk you in this debate but to show that animal testing is and will be 100% nessary for you and I to live our lives.

(edit sorry had to fix my links)

If you're against animal testing, what do you propose?

Testing on humans without ever having tested on an animal?

What would you tell the mother of a human test subject who was killed by the substance or drug, when this substance or drug never would have made it to human trials because it killed pigs?

yeah i saw this video or at least one like it. it was awful. i dont know what kind of animal it was, but it was being held upside down by its tail, then they just cut away at its butt then pulled the skin and fur off. the animal was squirming and crying and after it was all off the thing just was a bloody skeleton looking around blinking like what the f*** is going on. it was the most depressing thing and pissed me off so bad i want someone to skin those bastards. i dont know what to do because it really is like inevitable i feel.

This stirs up some emotions with me on the subject. I saw a documentary where they would capture cats and dogs, their treatment was beyond horrendous. They were killing them in that manner as well, at least the ones that survived being handled while they trucked them over for processing. They were making leather jackets out of them for export. Take note, you really don't know what kind of leather you are getting if it's a jacket from China. I used to always wear leather jackets, and typically they would be manufactured in China, I have never purchased or owned a leather jacket ever since and if I could get away with not buying a single item from China, I would.

My friend forwarded me the email with an attachment of the video of the animals being skinned alive.

I was so.. so.. angry and frustrated and felt so sick after watching the video. Humans' self-proclaimed "friend"; they were bleeding so much you can only see their black sad eyes and their long eyelashes. It was sick.

I was so tempted to go hit those :KNDOSKBNDFOSHNDJ people who did that. Really. What right do they have to do that? How would they feel if I hit them with a metal pole till their bones break? And then hang them by their legs or hands and skin them alive? And then throw their bloody bodies into a heap of creatures who underwent the same treatment? What the heck. Selfish freaks. Monsters.

I'm still damn angry. I really never imagined humans can be this.. ruthless. I don't know.