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New Post! Nov 23, 2009 @ 18:28:37#31
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fractal7221 said:

Wouldn't exactly work that way. The tax would be in effect anywhere that sold to the general public. So businesses would end up paying taxes on stuff like office supplies and the like. For most businesses these are huge expenditures and are generally just thrown in overhead.

Cash does leave a paper trail of sorts. Banks are required by law to file CTRs on cash deposits over $10,000. Reports are generated when a customer appears to be structuring deposits to stay under $10,000.


So they'd be double taxed then. Except the small businesses would be the one's hurt more. Sounds like a terrible plan.
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New Post! Nov 23, 2009 @ 19:58:49#32
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Not sure how I missed it, but I meant to say that for most business these are not huge expenditures. Stuff like pens and paper clips would be taxed, which for most companies does not end up costing them a bunch of money in terms of their overall expenses. I edited the post to fix this.

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New Post! Nov 23, 2009 @ 20:34:51#33
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fractal7221 said:

Not sure how I missed it, but I meant to say that for most business these are not huge expenditures. Stuff like pens and paper clips would be taxed, which for most companies does not end up costing them a bunch of money in terms of their overall expenses. I edited the post to fix this.


Oh, unless you're a printing company and buy a lot of paper. Or maybe your company is buying a lot of computers, or maybe you're a coffeeshop buying milk.

Simply saying "oh, stuff that a business would buy at Sam's Club doesn't make up for a lot of their expenses" is just ridiculous.

The way you're talking about it makes it more like a European style Value Added Tax. I rarely see conservative ideas trying to emulate Europe, but hey I guess there's always a first time!
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New Post! Nov 23, 2009 @ 23:19:07#34
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eL_TinO said:

Oh, unless you're a printing company and buy a lot of paper. Or maybe your company is buying a lot of computers, or maybe you're a coffeeshop buying milk.

Simply saying "oh, stuff that a business would buy at Sam's Club doesn't make up for a lot of their expenses" is just ridiculous.

The way you're talking about it makes it more like a European style Value Added Tax. I rarely see conservative ideas trying to emulate Europe, but hey I guess there's always a first time!


I don't know much about the printing industry, but I assume they have contracts with paper suppliers and aren't going to Sam's Club to purchase their supplies.

Back in High School I worked in a kitchen, and we didn't go to traditional grocery stores or Sam's Club unless the boss miss ordered and we ran out of something. We ordered from wholesalers by the pallet. We were a pretty small operation too. I guess someone could make a fake business to order from a wholesaler, but they typically only sell to you if you are purchasing thousands of dollars of food weekly.

The Fair Tax is big among the Libertarian crowd, not necessarily big in conservative circles, but it isn't universally opposed either. I really don't understand the heavy opposition. Sales tax is collected in most states without serious issues. The Fair Tax simply uses the same model but on a Federal level.
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