if thats the case then put calf blood on tap ill take a pitcher

I doubt you will get through it. Are you trying to live up to the stereotype of the well-socialised person in defence of what is conventional?


rogY

no im trying to live up to the sterotype of they guy that hates people who b**** about other peoples lives if you wanna know the truth i agree with working on our meat consumption issue but seeing people preach to other people how they should live there life pisses me off and just makes me want to be a d***.... even when its s*** i agree with everyone should but out of other peoples bussiness and do there own thing and if people see it and you are leading by example thats fine but dont go around saying hey this is whats right and you all need to do it or your bastards

There's another stereotype, that those who care about animal rights cannot care about human rights. In truth, research shows that most animal advocates support human rights initatives and tend to work in the public rather than private sector as nurses, teachers and councillors.

As for preaching, this is, after all, the animal rights thread. What do you expect us to talk about here, the weather? Part of the animal rights position is the claim that it is morally wrong to kill others in order to eat them. It is not as though anyone is posting direct to your inbox is it?

rogY

yeah controversial because it was jsut a couple of hippies going out and saying smells funny and then they played telephone and it turned into cows are the devil

yeah that too go katie

Thing is, Katie, such reports, eg: link [newstandardnews.net] come from well respected sources and one wonders why they would say such things - they certainly are not animal welfarists or animal rightists.

From an animal rights p.o.v, of course, all animal use is wrong, quite apart from the climate change issues.


rogY

so then what do you say about the animals that eat meat? I know I broughtthis up before but now It kind of applys if all eating of meat and use of dairy is wrong whatdo we do about animals that eat meat are they wrong or can we say that eating animals ia patt of nature

The basic answer to this is that we humans are moral agents (supposedly) - we can think ethically and decide on issues of right and wrong. Added to that, we do not need to eat meat, whereas some other animals do.

See question and answer 5 here: link [www.abolitionistapproach.com]


rogY

ok so we've have just all stopped eating meat great so now that we arnt killing and eating them the cows have now stopped killing the enviorment? they just stopped burping and farting? all the cows we arnt killing any more. pretty sure they would keep purping and farting and with out us killing them they would mate and make more and more cows to burp and fart. india doesnt eat cows they just let them wonder around burping and farting and f***ing adn making more cows to burp and fart

Are you serious? The billions of cows that exist are deliberately bred by humans for exploitation. As demand decreases, so will the level of breeding. It would not be the case that billions of cows are wandering around because ~we~ will stop bringing them into existence. Billions is not a sustainable free-living population.

The plight of cows in India is not that rosy - cows are still used instrumentally by humans - not least in a brutal leather industry: link [www.petaindia.com]


rogY

ok so why dont we only eat free range cows and just stop breeding them how does that sound then i can still have my burger and you can still have less cow burps