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Forum Index > Computers & Internet | >> Why Net Neutrality is important. | | |
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jonnythan
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | jmo said:
Wait, so you can get internet from ways other than a phone line?
Apparently I spelt 'internet' wrong. 
I think cable internet is more popular than DSL in the US. The internet comes in on the same lines cable TV does.
You can also get dedicated lines too, but those are so expensive only businesses use them. A T1 is a dedicated copper line used solely for data, for instance. Back in the day a T1 was pretty b****in, but it's only about 1.5 Mbps, far below the average cable connection in even the US, which lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in broadband speeds.
A lot of businesses will just get a T3 or DS3 line, which is about 45 Mbps. These types of lines are sold by larger data carriers that either themselves often have huge pipes (many many Gbps) connected either directly to "the backbone," which in reality means any one of several comm companies that are connected globally, or are in fact one of the backbone companies themselves.
When you start getting into this type of higher-level communications, things get complicated (and often somewhat archaic) rather quickly. There's all sorts of specialized equipment (media converters, routers, NIUs, other crap that I don't really understand) that has to exist between, say, an OC3 (around 150 Mbps) and an actual desktop computer.
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jmo
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Join Date: May 2006 | jonnythan said:
I think cable internet is more popular than DSL in the US. The internet comes in on the same lines cable TV does.
You can also get dedicated lines too, but those are so expensive only businesses use them. A T1 is a dedicated copper line used solely for data, for instance. Back in the day a T1 was pretty b****in, but it's only about 1.5 Mbps, far below the average cable connection in even the US, which lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in broadband speeds.
A lot of businesses will just get a T3 or DS3 line, which is about 45 Mbps. These types of lines are sold by larger data carriers that either themselves often have huge pipes (many many Gbps) connected either directly to "the backbone," which in reality means any one of several comm companies that are connected globally, or are in fact one of the backbone companies themselves.
When you start getting into this type of higher-level communications, things get complicated (and often somewhat archaic) rather quickly. There's all sorts of specialized equipment (media converters, routers, NIUs, other crap that I don't really understand) that has to exist between, say, an OC3 (around 150 Mbps) and an actual desktop computer.
Wow, I never knew that. I was only aware of getting internet through phone line or using a dongle. |  | |
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NickoBorgir
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Join Date: Oct 2009 | jonnythan said:
Net Neutrality is the principle that ISPs should give all web sites and services equal use of the bandwidth consumers purchase from them. For example, Google should not get traffic priority over, say, TFS when it comes to sharing bandwidth to users.
Many ISPs, particularly cable companies, are lobbying hard for the ability to throttle bandwidth depending on who it's coming from and how much they're paying. For example, they want to be able to limit Hulu traffic severely so that they can sell their customers their own streaming TV services. They want to be able to threaten to cut off Google and Youtube bandwidth unless Google pays them big bucks.
What's the big danger, you say? Imagine this scenario, courtesy of Gizmodo.
So it would be like Cable TV. You get the basic package, but have to pay extra for movies, or extra for sport?
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jonnythan
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | jmo said:
Wow, I never knew that. I was only aware of getting internet through phone line or using a dongle.
You think Apple headquarters gets internet for their entire campus through a phone line? 
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Join Date: May 2006 | jonnythan said:
You think Apple headquarters gets internet for their entire campus through a phone line?
 Never thought about it. | | | |
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jonnythan
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | Xilmwa said:
LOL. But just out of curiosity, did you only mention Apple headquarters instead of say, IBM or something because I brought up the whole OC-768 line thing?
No, just pulled out a random tech company.
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jmo
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Join Date: May 2006 | So when will we know when this jazz is going down? | | | |
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