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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:17:01#16
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tardcore said:

It doesn't hurt to not learn Spanish.



It doesn't hurt to not want to learn anything really,it just takes ignorance to be that way.
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:17:57#17
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breadwinner said:

Its not racism, you dont want to hang out with him because of his race, you dont want to hang out with him because you cant talk to him.

He didn't say that he doesn't want to hang out with him.



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:18:58#18
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Demented said:

It doesn't hurt to not want to learn anything really,it just takes ignorance to be that way.

Kinda like the Mexican dude not learning to speak English...



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:20:08#19
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Demented said:

It doesn't hurt to not want to learn anything really,it just takes ignorance to be that way.



Is this being said to the OP or the Spanish speaking guy that now lives in an English speaking country?



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:21:20#20
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tardcore said:

Kinda like the Mexican dude not learning to speak English...



Well he did say to Rocket,You Want,I think that say's he's made least an effort to try.
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:25:15#21
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tardcore said:

Kinda like the Mexican dude not learning to speak English...



So you know he's not learning?
You're an instant god at every language you try?

Also, English is incredibly difficult to learn for foreigners - it doesnt have the same patterns and is full of exceptions. I could see how middle-aged/older persons would see it as a useless exercise to study a language they probably will never get the hang of (ie. sense of futility)
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:26:04#22
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Demented said:

Well he did say to Rocket,You Want,I think that say's he's made least an effort to try.

You can use a straw-man fallacy to suggest that somebody is ignorant, but Rocket is under no obligation to learn anything other than his native language.



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:33:17#23
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Darkshine said:

So you know he's not learning?
You're an instant god at every language you try?

Also, English is incredibly difficult to learn for foreigners - it doesnt have the same patterns and is full of exceptions. I could see how middle-aged/older persons would see it as a useless exercise to study a language they probably will never get the hang of (ie. sense of futility)

Butchering a few words doesn't mean that somebody is trying to learn English. Every Mexican person I have ever known has become fluent at speaking English after a few months of lessons. Cuantas idiomas usted habla?

Sorry...Cuantos idiomas usted habla?



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:39:42#24
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tardcore said:

You can use a straw-man fallacy to suggest that somebody is ignorant, but Rocket is under no obligation to learn anything other than his native language.



The only one who has said anything about Rocket being under any obligation is you,all I said was it wouldn't really hurt to learn.

If Rocket wants to he can,I didn't say he HAD to it's his decision and not ours to bash back and forth.
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 05:50:23#25
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tardcore said:

He didn't say that he doesn't want to hang out with him.



right, what he said was that he seemed like a cool guy, and he could be cool to hang out with if they could communicate...

the way to communicate would be to learn each other's language... that could be taught both ways, and as he made efforts into talking to the guy, and the guy then made efforts talking back, both would come away with a better understanding of each others languange as well as a new friendship...

whether or not the guy should know something shouldn't really be an issue if he seems like somebody you'd like to be friends with... it just depends how worth the effort he seems to be...



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 08:04:46#26
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tardcore said:

Butchering a few words doesn't mean that somebody is trying to learn English. Every Mexican person I have ever known has become fluent at speaking English after a few months of lessons. Cuantas idiomas usted habla?

Sorry...Cuantos idiomas usted habla?



Not being fluent at a language generally is a pretty good sign that someone is learning.

Can't really tell what else would tell you.

What I'm saying is you don't know the facts enough to whip out the old "my land, my rules" bulls***.
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 08:14:21#27
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rocket48 said:

I came home tonight, after a few drinks. I love to have drinks with friends. I let my dog out to do his business and the neighbor next door was at his back window drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette and started talking to me. I couldn't understand what he was saying, so I walked closer to him and said, How are you doing? He held his beer up and asked "you want"? I said no thank you, I have been drinking since I got home tonight. He said, oh, so sorry, I speak little English.
Now I think to myself. This man is my neighbor and he seems like a good fellow. I wish I could take him up on a beer, or even offer him a drink and be his friend. I can't. He can't communicate with me.
To some people, I need to learn to Spanish if I want his friendship. What do you all think? I live in the United States, and I want to be friends with my neighbors, but I can't.
Am I discriminating against my neighbors because I refuse to learn spanish?



Na. its just that you can't be bothered. nothing discriminating about that.

My dads mate is deaf and I can't be bothered to talk to him, repeating myself or shouting is something thats below me. yea, I'm a git.
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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 08:23:00#28
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rocket48 said:

That's my point. When I moved to Brazil, I did everything I could to learn the language. I out it on ME. But I am here. Why can't they try?


you already speak Portuguese it is quite similar to Spanish why not try picking up a Spanish phrase book and seeng where the similarities lie. or if you cant be bothered don't worry about it.



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New Post! Oct 01, 2009 @ 08:35:50#29
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Becoming friends with him he can help you learn some spanish and you can teach him english what a great way to become friends helping each other out.
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Oops, wrong thread.




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