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 Jun 01, 2008 @ 17:44:46 | #141 | paisleyspeaker
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Join Date: May 2008 | beanpop said:
Whites( America especially) as done more for africa then the africans have. We have provided aid to them and even sent over troops to help establish democracy, which has cost us men, men that have families.So before you bad talk america and how you think the constitution only applies to whites, know what your talking about... And although this wanst in the constitution but instead in the Declaration of Independence, the famous line all men are created equal, only meant that all white men were created equal and if you dont believe and just think im a racist f**k, look it up. Thomas Jefferson its author owned slaves.Oh yeah and for the record blacks owned blacks so whites werent the only ones who enslaved.
Are you an Eglin AFB military brat? You sound like someone who has been brainwashed by a military community. You say that people should know what they are talking about before they bad talk America. Well you should take your own advice when it comes to Africa. Many of the things you claim that white people and America has saved Africa from were caused if not by American's but by the Europeans they decended from. America interfered in African politics, killed democratically elected leaders because we didn't like their politics, we have installed dictators because they would pander to our corperations. White men divided up the African contenent each taking their part of it's natrual resources, and forced the natives to mine them.
There may be great examples of the good that America and white people have done, but Africa is not one of them.
And as for the constitution, there was more than just Jefferson involved in the creation of that document, and discussion about slavery nearly prevented that document from ever being signed, or ratified. Jefferson is a complicated figure anyway, as he had ongoing relationships with the black women he owned, and freed many of his slaves upon his death. There were many representives from the northern colonies that argued that if all men were created equal, that black men must be included in that statement. In order to get the constitution signed and ratified the 'founding fathers' had to remove all traces of slavery from the document. In Vermont, New Hamphire and Massechusetts the state constitutions all contained language that condemed slavery.
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a ghost precedes us
and everytime we stop , we fall
Forgive me Father, for I know what I do
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| Jun 01, 2008 @ 18:15:29 | #143 | paisleyspeaker
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31/F/Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2008 | There are a few other things I want to add, if I have missed them in someone else's posts I apologise.
1. Racism is still written into our laws, you need to look no further than New York's Rockefeller drug laws. All drug laws were passed using fear of mexicans and black jazz musicians ( just watch Reefer Madness) The Rockefeller laws are mush more recent. Under these laws the sentence for crack cocaine is far, far heavier tan the sentence for powder cocaine, and the law was written that way to protect the upper cla** whites who liked their blow.
2. Much of the behavior I read about at the begining of the thread ( shut up and keep your head down) could just as easily be defined as classist behavior. Those who have traditionally treat those who don't have like s**t. I am however not naive, and I know that those who have are traditonally white, and those who have not are esentialy everyone else.
an angel follows us
a ghost precedes us
and everytime we stop , we fall
Forgive me Father, for I know what I do
I want to hear the last poem of the last poet.
J. Morrison | | | |
| Jun 03, 2008 @ 20:04:27 | #147 | mackandal
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Join Date: Jun 2008 | spicedsugar said:
Past tense.
We're talking about the present now.
Besides, that's what the amendments were for. Surprise!
Well, lets talk about now, are African Americans enjoying the full rights accorded to them under the Constitution? Hell, no! Voter disenfranchisement is still an issue, for example. The amendments ended slavery, big deal, but look at what happened after slavery, more of the same. | | | |
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Laffed my a** off all the way through that film! 
