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 Dec 05, 2006 @ 05:58:17 | #5 | skanky_hoe
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Join Date: Aug 2005 | 666izminotti said:
well i dont no
Well that was blantly obvious wasn't it!? 
Goth was a subculture that began around the late 70's - early 80's and was an off-shoot of punk culture. The viking tribes was a different thing.
Bands which influenced the goth movement were The Cure, The Banshees, 45 Grave, Joy Division and Dead Can Dance, to name a few.
There were many different subcultures of goth since then and its very diverse, many goths also listen to techno, death metal, nu- metal, even classical music; although those styles are not specifically gothic.
Basically goths are into things that are dark romantic. I guess the kinda people who don't fit into society's stereotype of 'perfect' or 'normal' find comfort in being able to explore their individuality in gothic culture.
Goths are often mistaken for death rockers and fans of heavy metal, who tend to wear lots of black. |   | |
| Jan 16, 2008 @ 14:38:40 | #10 | delta62
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Join Date: Dec 2007 | nerophoira said: try Wikipedia 
yea under goth subculture
these are the different types *takes big breath*
Baby Bat
Either a young goth or a new-comer to the scene, previously derogatory.
Batcaver
Originally a frequenter of the early goth nightclub the Batcave, now referring to older goths who are fans of the music played there.
Cybergoth
Goth interested in cyberculture.
Corporate goth
Goth with a day job, often melding corporate wear (or office wear) with gothic style.
Deathrocker
They are into old school Deathrock, Horror punk and Psychobilly. They wear layering black & white or black & red or black & green stripes. Much of their clothing, particularly t-shirts, fishnets and tights, are often ripped or torn. Their hairstyles have a decidedly '80s punk influence. Their makeup has strong horror movie influences, especially zombie movies.
Doom Cookie/Gloom Cookie
A derogatory term for a person in the goth scene who is seen as other-than-genuine. (Doom referring to males and Gloom referring to females.)
Elder goth
A goth who has been part of the subculture since it originally came about, or a goth over the age of 40.
Gothdom
Goth society
Gothing Up
Getting dressed in goth attire, often before visiting a club.
Gothics
Goth style trousers, or more loosely the entire attire
Goth Code
An abbreviation-based self-description mechanism. Fairly rarely used now, it was used in at the tail of messages to Usenet and email. Version 1.0-Beta was first released on 20 Oct 1995. There were various versions, v3.1. Goth. Code 98 was the most recent version, released 19 Feb 1998.
Goth points
Criteria by which a goth is assessed for conformity to the subculture. Used sarcastically, rather than a genuine rating system.
Graver
A cybergoth who goes to raves. In terms of fashion, cybergoths have rave influences in their attire.
Kindergoth
a goth kid, normally under the age 16.
Romantigoth
They dress in Victorian-style or Renaissance era attire, taking interest in intellectual pastimes (reading and writing poetry etc.). Similar to New Romantic.
Mallgoth
A derogatory term for young, self-identifying goths who are not regarded as well-informed members or part of the subculture at all. Suggests both that the teen in question hangs out in malls and that they buy their quasi-gothic clothing at mall shops such as Hot Topic. While a mallgoth incorporates many elements of Gothic Fashion in their apparel, the term inherently suggests derision from at least some full, adult members of the subculture, particularly due to the deviations between the mallgoth's look and accepted goth attire.
Mansonite
A young person who is mainly influenced by Marilyn Manson and calls themself "goth"; used as a derogatory term. Formerly often synonymous with "Mallgoth."
NINny
Pronounced ninny, a derogatory term for fans of the band Nine Inch Nails ("NIN" who worship Trent Reznor. The term has been used as an insult, and in regular non-goth usage, the word "ninny" means idiot. However, some Nine Inch Nails fans describe themselves as NINnies.
Perky Goth
A goth who pretends to be "happy" but is not serious about it. Most often doing it for the humorous cynicism involved and enjoyment of other goths at a "normie's" confusion. and mostly loves listening to 80's Gothic Rock and Pop, as opposed to gloomy goth whose musical taste is more melancholy. Alternately, a goth who has embraced the aesthetics of the subculture in terms of music and fashion, but whose mood and demeanor are generally light and happy.
Plasti'Goth
Not a real full time Goth, adopting only the fashionable side of the subculture or practising it only at weekends.
Spot the Goth
Looking for other goths, most often in areas where they are unlikely to be, or on the way to goth venues.
Spooky Kids
From the original name for Marilyn Manson's band. Originally a term for Manson fans, it has come to be a derogatory term for mallcore and Marilyn Manson fans, similar to the term Mansonite.
Ubergoth
The pinnacle of goth style, or a goth who is always perfectly dressed. The goth that will "dress to the nines to go out and buy the milk". Can also be used in a derogatory sense to describe a person who would appear to be attempting to exceed or better others in terms of dress or attitude
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| Jan 16, 2008 @ 14:40:12 | #11 | delta62
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Join Date: Dec 2007 | skanky_hoe said: Well that was blantly obvious wasn't it!?
Goth was a subculture that began around the late 70's - early 80's and was an off-shoot of punk culture. The viking tribes was a different thing.
Bands which influenced the goth movement were The Cure, The Banshees, 45 Grave, Joy Division and Dead Can Dance, to name a few.
There were many different subcultures of goth since then and its very diverse, many goths also listen to techno, death metal, nu- metal, even classical music; although those styles are not specifically gothic.
Basically goths are into things that are dark romantic. I guess the kinda people who don't fit into society's stereotype of 'perfect' or 'normal' find comfort in being able to explore their individuality in gothic culture.
Goths are often mistaken for death rockers and fans of heavy metal, who tend to wear lots of black.
Baby Bat
Either a young goth or a new-comer to the scene, previously derogatory.
Batcaver
Originally a frequenter of the early goth nightclub the Batcave, now referring to older goths who are fans of the music played there.
Cybergoth
Goth interested in cyberculture.
Corporate goth
Goth with a day job, often melding corporate wear (or office wear) with gothic style.
Deathrocker
They are into old school Deathrock, Horror punk and Psychobilly. They wear layering black & white or black & red or black & green stripes. Much of their clothing, particularly t-shirts, fishnets and tights, are often ripped or torn. Their hairstyles have a decidedly '80s punk influence. Their makeup has strong horror movie influences, especially zombie movies.
Doom Cookie/Gloom Cookie
A derogatory term for a person in the goth scene who is seen as other-than-genuine. (Doom referring to males and Gloom referring to females.)
Elder goth
A goth who has been part of the subculture since it originally came about, or a goth over the age of 40.
Gothdom
Goth society
Gothing Up
Getting dressed in goth attire, often before visiting a club.
Gothics
Goth style trousers, or more loosely the entire attire
Goth Code
An abbreviation-based self-description mechanism. Fairly rarely used now, it was used in at the tail of messages to Usenet and email. Version 1.0-Beta was first released on 20 Oct 1995. There were various versions, v3.1. Goth. Code 98 was the most recent version, released 19 Feb 1998.
Goth points
Criteria by which a goth is assessed for conformity to the subculture. Used sarcastically, rather than a genuine rating system.
Graver
A cybergoth who goes to raves. In terms of fashion, cybergoths have rave influences in their attire.
Kindergoth
a goth kid, normally under the age 16.
Romantigoth
They dress in Victorian-style or Renaissance era attire, taking interest in intellectual pastimes (reading and writing poetry etc.). Similar to New Romantic.
Mallgoth
A derogatory term for young, self-identifying goths who are not regarded as well-informed members or part of the subculture at all. Suggests both that the teen in question hangs out in malls and that they buy their quasi-gothic clothing at mall shops such as Hot Topic. While a mallgoth incorporates many elements of Gothic Fashion in their apparel, the term inherently suggests derision from at least some full, adult members of the subculture, particularly due to the deviations between the mallgoth's look and accepted goth attire.
Mansonite
A young person who is mainly influenced by Marilyn Manson and calls themself "goth"; used as a derogatory term. Formerly often synonymous with "Mallgoth."
NINny
Pronounced ninny, a derogatory term for fans of the band Nine Inch Nails ("NIN" who worship Trent Reznor. The term has been used as an insult, and in regular non-goth usage, the word "ninny" means idiot. However, some Nine Inch Nails fans describe themselves as NINnies.
Perky Goth
A goth who pretends to be "happy" but is not serious about it. Most often doing it for the humorous cynicism involved and enjoyment of other goths at a "normie's" confusion. and mostly loves listening to 80's Gothic Rock and Pop, as opposed to gloomy goth whose musical taste is more melancholy. Alternately, a goth who has embraced the aesthetics of the subculture in terms of music and fashion, but whose mood and demeanor are generally light and happy.
Plasti'Goth
Not a real full time Goth, adopting only the fashionable side of the subculture or practising it only at weekends.
Spot the Goth
Looking for other goths, most often in areas where they are unlikely to be, or on the way to goth venues.
Spooky Kids
From the original name for Marilyn Manson's band. Originally a term for Manson fans, it has come to be a derogatory term for mallcore and Marilyn Manson fans, similar to the term Mansonite.
Ubergoth
The pinnacle of goth style, or a goth who is always perfectly dressed. The goth that will "dress to the nines to go out and buy the milk". Can also be used in a derogatory sense to describe a person who would appear to be attempting to exceed or better others in terms of dress or attitude
i think i got them all 
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| Apr 09, 2008 @ 02:41:51 | #13 | negasable
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Join Date: Apr 2007 | Goth came from punk, and various elements in the victorian era (ex gothic literature) and other subcultures.
In the late 70s bands like Siouxsie sioux, bauhaus, and The cure in england, and more deathrock type bands like christian death and 45 grave began changing their style in their music which was considered goth and soon evolved into their own culture with some cult films, music and literature.
Now a days, goth is always mistaken for people who shop at hot topic, where all black and listen to marilyn manson, and without knowing any goth history or arts, called a "mallgoth" like delta said, which is a shame, but still there are people who still are into true goth.
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i thought you where calling me a mallgoth then 
