State of the NFL

@Erimitus Said

Wheew!!!

@Ratty Said

He was a liar and disingenuous. I don't play with that stuff.

@Erimitus Said

I do not know if it is true or not but I do not believe that anyone argues that there is not racial inequality.

@Ratty Said

How about you just f*** off and not answer me. You proved yourself to be a disingenuous poster a while back with your answer to me in another thread.

Leave my posts alone... how's about that. You'd proved yourself unworthy of being even handed and fair and balanced and legit already....

I aint' going to bother to interact with your bulls***....

@Ratty Said

He was a liar and disengenous. I don't play with that stuff.

@Erimitus Said

Racial inequality and police brutality of African American or Black U.S. Citizens.

For some reason Trayvon Martin (who wasn’t killed by a cop or a white person) and Mike Brown (who I’m pretty sure was guilty) are names repeatedly brought up.

The protesters are against racial inequality and the non-protesters are for racial inequality.

The protesters are against police brutality and the non-protesters are for police brutality.

Both Trayvon and Mike were problem sort of kids.

It has been argued that both were killed in self defense. This may or may not be true but it is the official stance.

In that the official stance is disputed I do not believe Travon and Mike are a good representation of the problem.

I do not know if it is true or not but I do not believe that anyone argues that there is not racial inequality.

There is police brutality. (i.e., the use of unnecessary force)

The NFL protests have been successful in making inequality, injustice and brutality a major topic of conversation.

If success is an adjudicator or correctness then I would say that the protests are a good thing.

For those who favor inequality and brutality the protests is not a good thing.

@Erimitus Said

There is inequality.

Life is not fair.

Police can be brutal. (i.e., the use of unnecessary force)

Those being policed can be brutal.

I am naïve.


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E: The protesters are against racial inequality and the non-protesters are for racial inequality. This (of course) is wrong. The non-protesters are NOT protesting anything and hence not demonstrating for or against anything.

E: The protesters are against police brutality and the non-protesters are for police brutality.

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E: Some people (both police and civilians) are bullies and use unnecessary force. There are (of course) varying motivations for this but in general it seems to give them pleasure. Possibly it has something to do with the will to power.

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C: One thing to note, they were successful in bringing up an issue that was greatly ignored for years.

E: Certainly made it a major topic of discussion


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C: For the attention of those who seek equality, they need to now find a way to fix the issue.

E: Do you have any ideas on how to address the issues of inequality and brutality?

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C: The continuation of kneeling only brings more issues.

E: At some of those who kneel are demonstrating that they do not respect the flag (and the republic for which it stands) because the republic does not respect them. Personally I do not care if they stand or genuflect or do cartwheels. Don’t play the anthem and the problem is solved. Why pledge allegiance at a game? Maybe allegiance to your team but why to the state?

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C: Racism is a powerful ideology.

E: I had not thought of racism as an ideology, but you are correct; it is. The problem is that there can be no argument against racism because there is no argument for racism.

@Cpat92 Said

A few ideas we could possibly try is starting in schools. Spread awareness and promote equality like in the past. I had a few lectures like that in elementary and middle school. We shouldn’t be too afraid to discuss it at the high school level. The challenge would be to have someone to inform and lead in discussions without a biased opinion. It can be spread throughout such schools, colleges and universities can be spread through, lectures in auditoriums. Even have Q&A/Open Discussions at the local Town Hall or at a College Auditorium.

@DiscordTiger Said

Speaking from experience, discussions like that don’t have big turn outs. Not compared to the NFL audience.

Or when the they do it’s from people that already agree with the message.

I’m also not really sure it’s a conversation you can eliminate bias in when literally one side refuses to acknowledge some groups of people as human. I mean I get where you are coming from but there has to be a baseline of respect.