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DuLu
TRAIN deRAILour





Waverly, Washington
#136New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 21:13:23
@Oisin Said

i find it best just to eat some jelly babies and not worry about such things.

here



Those look very good! Haven't seen any in that shape before, but
then I don't much go around looking at jelly beans.
On February 27, 2013
BozieFozie
Life's a Beach





Paradise, Florida
#137New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 21:19:31
You are all high!!!
On June 16, 2013
DuLu
TRAIN deRAILour





Waverly, Washington
#138New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 21:21:10
E: What I meant in the post that you are referring to is that what is perceived depends(among other things) on the perspective of the observer.


....whatever is perceived depends (among other things) on the perspective of the observer.

I have been thinking the same thing lately - only instead of perspective of the observer/bystander, I was saying it depends on the 'bias' of the observer. An observer's perspective would be influenced by their bias on many things which are consciously and subconsciously related to the matter at hand.

Hah! Imagine this. Half of these types of threads are way too intense for me to wrap my style of writing/posting around, but what I have read so far in this thread is making perfect sense.
On February 27, 2013
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#139New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 21:25:46
@BozieFozie Said

You are all high!!!



come on up
On June 02, 2013
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#140New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 21:27:48
@DuLu Said

what I have read so far in this thread is making perfect sense.

wow, are you in trouble
On June 02, 2013
Reviso




Trenton, Canada
#141New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 22:00:05
@Willi Said

what happens after appropriation?


The topic is causality= time. The appropriate cause and effect Is in my mind without the Ego, because the existence of ego determines it's being for oneself temporally to judge/ be judged per causes leading to effects within Time-passing: of cause then effect . The Ego may exist appropriately without cause and effect as well. The topic should be retitled appropriation = ego satisfied. My ego in the good sex was not causing anything for the effect. And the causality still needs seductive words of action.

Causality is a lot of talking, not mine but hers. The point I was trying to make. As far what I am saying:in rationalism causality = appropriation. That way the judgment about the Ego is suspended in rationalism.
On about 11 hours ago
Willi
this could be heaven





north in, Illinois
#142New Post! Apr 24, 2012 @ 22:12:56
@Reviso Said

The topic is causality= time. The appropriate cause and effect Is in my mind without the Ego, because the existence of ego determines it's being for oneself temporally to judge/ be judged per causes leading to effects within Time-passing: of cause then effect . The Ego may exist appropriately without cause and effect as well. The topic should be retitled appropriation = ego satisfied. My ego in the good sex was not causing anything for the effect. And the causality still needs seductive words of action.

Causality is a lot of talking, not mine but hers. The point I was trying to make. As far what I am saying:in rationalism causality = appropriation. That way the judgment about the Ego is suspended in rationalism.


this ego? link
On June 02, 2013
Richard142




Greater London, United Kingdom
#143New Post! Jun 19, 2012 @ 19:02:29
@futilevoice Said

I don't think causality is equal to time. Time is the measurement of durations of intervals between events.
Cauality expresses the relationship between events.
I don't know what you mean started by nothing. Humans have labelled time and it's measurements.

Time can only be measured because repeat events happen = unit of time, e.g. the solar year and the lunar month. No movement = no time.
On June 14, 2013
BozieFozie
Life's a Beach





Paradise, Florida
#144New Post! Jun 19, 2012 @ 19:05:21
yikers!
On June 16, 2013
Richard142




Greater London, United Kingdom
#145New Post! Jun 19, 2012 @ 19:18:57
@DuLu Said

E: What I meant in the post that you are referring to is that what is perceived depends(among other things) on the perspective of the observer.

....whatever is perceived depends (among other things) on
I have been thinking the same thing lately - only instead of perspective of the observer/bystander, I was saying it depends on the 'bias' of the observer. An observer's perspective would be influenced by their bias on many things which are consciously and subconsciously related to the matter at hand.
Hah! Imagine this. Half of these types of threads are way too intense for me to wrap my style of writing/posting around, but what I have read so far in this thread is making perfect sense.

We are all observers. If by bias = theory that will be modified through repeatable evidence this = the scientific method. If despite evidence a static view = dogma. I hope to have an mind open to new interpretations, new evidence, new experiences. The opposite of dogma except I'm dogmatic that movement & evolution impossible without time & time impossible without movement. So if no material substance that moves then no time = no before = no creation = always something material existing.
On June 14, 2013
Reviso




Trenton, Canada
#146New Post! Jun 20, 2012 @ 14:01:46
@Richard142 Said

Time can only be measured because repeat events happen = unit of time, e.g. the solar year and the lunar month. No movement = no time.


Yeah, I know that we have made instrumental observations of the sky which in turn is like an instrument of making analogy to the original Instrument of moving Objectivity in the sky. Thus there is movement causing itself Organic change for absolutely everything. The timeless organism Causes the mechanism of day-to-day activity.


Incidentally today is the mechanically converged longest day of the Year. Organically, that is the Time of mystically amazing things. Sure...
On about 11 hours ago
Richard142




Greater London, United Kingdom
#147New Post! Jun 20, 2012 @ 16:40:42
@Reviso Said

Yeah, I know that we have made instrumental observations of the sky which in turn is like an instrument of making analogy to the original Instrument of moving Objectivity in the sky. Thus there is movement causing itself Organic change for absolutely everything. The timeless organism Causes the mechanism of day-to-day activity.
Incidentally today is the mechanically converged longest day of the Year. Organically, that is the Time of mystically amazing things. Sure...

The longest solar day happens at the Summer Solstice [June21st] while the longest solar night is at the Winter solstice. Hence Druids mark the beginning [or birth] of the Solar Year at the Winter Solstice.
The point I was trying to make is that without movement there is no time so no 'before' and so no 'creation'. Everything is evolving motion and will forever be so. There is no other scientific explanation that fits with what is knowable to us humans. All other claims for a creator are usually dogmatically stated by humans with closed minds, in my opinion.
On June 14, 2013
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