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mark_is_god
Monk+ 33863 points


20/M/antrim, Ireland Join Date: Aug 2006 | #46 Jan 06, 2010 @ 03:00:13 psycoskunk said:
I know the person well, (not the guy in jail, but the guy in my class) so it'd be best not to assume that I don't know people I've hung out with. He's not the kind of guy who'd lie as a joke. And even still, it's not something to joke about.
I've been trying to find links for the story, but I can't find any. But at this point, I really don't care anymore. Believe me, don't believe me. Whatever. It's up to you.
well that's the point, using information from someone you know to back up a claim would be bad enough.
but you,re using information from your friends friends, how is that reliable.
how do you know where he got that information from?
if this bulls*** was true the press would of leached onto it, but they haven't why? because it is complete bollocks.
I've already pointed that this claim isn't even physically possible, just think about how many hundreds of people will be arrested up to and during the Olympics, you simply could not just hid them away until after the Olympics have ended.
family's, friends, workplaces would all notice these people missing, and when the people were eventually freed they would sue the complete s*** out of the city.
and ask yourself why? why would they even bother keeping these people locked up until after the Olympics, it serves absolutely no purpose.
so to sum up, there's no motive, there's no means and there's no proof.
have fun living your fantasy. | |
jonnythan
Like a boss.
Hee Haw+ 151604 points


100/M/The north, Join Date: Aug 2005 | #47 Jan 06, 2010 @ 03:12:59 psycoskunk said:
Insult? Up to this point I haven't insulted or b****ed at anyone at all during this thread. In fact, the only one who's really done that is you, so...
Well, you are the only retard posting. So...  | |
Lili
Perpetual Lurker
Points Whore Master+ 66393 points


28/F/Sunshine Land, California Join Date: Apr 2005 | #48 Jan 06, 2010 @ 03:40:33 psycoskunk said:
Employee of Vancouver...?
If you mean that he's taking the same course as me so he can become an employee somewhere in Vancouver, then yes. I guess that would make him an employee of Vancouver.
Have you ever tried calling CBC?! It is a nightmare! I was part of a radio interview that my mom was doing for Co-Op Radio and I had to call in. Unfortunately, it took about 20 minutes for my call to get through and even then, I was put on hold for about an hour.
lol, no, by employee of Vancouver I meant...employee of Vancouver. Being a student doesn't make anyone a current employee of the city, regardless of their career ambitions.
My point is, was this guy you mention privy to inside info, or not? From your answer, it seems that he is not. So this is pure speculation. Believe me, if there was only an hour of being on hold between me and the CBC knowing that the Government was jailing people baselessly en mass, you'd better believe I'd be on the phone. You think a human rights violation like that would go by with a shrug, passed off because reporting it to the news is slightly inconvenient? Hell no! | |
Lili
Perpetual Lurker
Points Whore Master+ 66393 points


28/F/Sunshine Land, California Join Date: Apr 2005 | #49 Jan 06, 2010 @ 03:43:19 Sure, this guy may genuinely believe what he's saying, I'm not gonna accuse him of lying, I don't know him. But the reason people rely on actual journalists is because there are journalistic standards for researching their information sources to make sure they're reliable. People can count on the news they read to be true as a result of those standards. This is not true of some guy in a person's class. | |
tardcore
Über-Minister+ 19717 points Deleted


33/M/Between a rock and another roc Join Date: Aug 2008 | #50 Jan 06, 2010 @ 03:59:56 psycoskunk said:
I know the person well, (not the guy in jail, but the guy in my class) so it'd be best not to assume that I don't know people I've hung out with. He's not the kind of guy who'd lie as a joke. And even still, it's not something to joke about.
I've been trying to find links for the story, but I can't find any. But at this point, I really don't care anymore. Believe me, don't believe me. Whatever. It's up to you.
We'll be waiting for one whale of a story when he gets out. | |
psycoskunk
Stinky Feet Pro
TFS Monkey+ 40625 points


19/M/Vancouver, BC, Canada Join Date: Jun 2006 | #51 Jan 06, 2010 @ 04:03:32 mark_is_god said:
ask yourself why? why would they even bother keeping these people locked up until after the Olympics, it serves absolutely no purpose.
Imagine yourself as the mayor of a large city in Ireland. You feel proud that your city was selected to host the Winter Games. You feel overjoyed, yet somewhat uneasy, as your city has hit a few snags. Your city has a large homeless population, the largest in the UK. The opposition is questioning whether the Olympics are a good idea to have in the city while health care and education funding is at an all-time low. To make matters worse, your city is already in serious debt. The media is still talking about how your city was selected for the Games and how great it'll be, despite these problems. Of course, as the news doesn't really pertain to the rest of the world as greatly as it does to your city, so they just report about the games. Nothing about the debt, all-time lows for education or even the homeless.
But lo and behold! A saviour. The IOC has created an Ireland branch, known as IROC (Ireland Olympic Commitee). They reassure you that the Games will be a hit and that they'll help finance the Games, as long as they're put in charge of the majority of the preparation. You agree, naturally.
Here's where the problems begin. The First Nations community (let's pretend Ireland has a large First Nations community) is in an uproar that the Olympics are happening on Native land that's still yet to be treatied. Protests start going on. In order to try to quell the protests, IROC reassures them that there will be a large Native influence on the games, which makes people satisfied.
Eventually, the logo rolls out and it looks like this:
This eases some of the tension. IROC also insists that the mascots will have a First Nations influence as well, but when they're revealed...
Massive outroar! The mascots look like they belong in Pokemon and bear a striking resemblence to the Beijing 2008 mascots.
To make matters worse, more protests break out and you find out that you're overbudget and not even done with a quarter of the construction on the venues. The venues in the two neighbouring cities where some of the events take place are almost complete, which is really the only good news thus far. At this point you remember: The homeless population! They'd make your city look bad. So you need to deal with that too. IROC says they have a solution to both the protestors and the homeless: Increased security. All it takes is some more money, but you're overbudget as it is, so you start to cut back on different policies, including education, health care and enviromental issues.
At this point, a specific band of First Nations people are in an outrage because one of your sponsers apparantly stole the design of the Olympic sweaters from the Cowichan people, who have been making traditional sweaters since before your city was founded. To make matters worse, it turns out that they sent a letter to IROC before, volunteering to make authentic 2010 Cowichan sweaters for the Games, but IROC didn't respond to their letter and took the designs instead. Now the Games almost seem like too much trouble. And with the games just around the corner and the venues still not fully built, you know that pulling this off will be difficult. So you start asking various construction and architectual companies to complete the venues. Eventually, you find a company to undertake the task. However...
The company that'll finish the construction is Scottish. You realize that it's a contradiction, as the games are being held in Ireland, yet a Scottish company is builing the venues. More outroar and rage by the public. The venues are done, but at the cost of being massively overbudget and with a general displeasure among the populous, things look bad. IROC's solution: More security. But they also have a more... questionable suggestion. To keep anyone who's arrested from January of the new year until the end of the games in holding until March 1, when they'll start trials. You know this is a terrible idea and confront them about it. "That's preposterous! that's like self-sabotage! And what will the media say when they find this out?" In which case, the response is "They don't have to know."
*Wonders how many points his post got.*
And I admit I got mixed up. They'd put you in holding, not in jail. I forgot what it was called.  | |
AmberB
Meister+ 1201 points


110/F/, Join Date: Nov 2009 | #53 Jan 06, 2010 @ 04:12:46 psycoskunk said:
Believe me, don't believe me. Whatever. It's up to you.
I'm going to with don't believe you, not that you should care. The other side of this is just way more convincing. | |
incognito
Giddy In The Pants
Minister+ 11697 points Deleted


30/F/, Canada Join Date: May 2009 | #54 Jan 06, 2010 @ 04:28:19 psycoskunk said:
Right now in Vancouver, if you get arrested from now until the Olympics, no matter what you were arrested for, you'll be held in jail until after the Olympic and Paralympic Games. You won't even get a trial, nothing. Just right in jail.
Please tell me that you are trolling, or have eaten too many fine bc shrooms and are now dillusional. 
Seriously, you can't be serious.
You actually believe that, or you are just being funny? | |
mark_is_god
Monk+ 33863 points


20/M/antrim, Ireland Join Date: Aug 2006 | #55 Jan 06, 2010 @ 14:13:59 psycoskunk said:
Imagine yourself as the mayor of a large city in Ireland. You feel proud that your city was selected to host the Winter Games. You feel overjoyed, yet somewhat uneasy, as your city has hit a few snags. Your city has a large homeless population, the largest in the UK. The opposition is questioning whether the Olympics are a good idea to have in the city while health care and education funding is at an all-time low. To make matters worse, your city is already in serious debt. The media is still talking about how your city was selected for the Games and how great it'll be, despite these problems. Of course, as the news doesn't really pertain to the rest of the world as greatly as it does to your city, so they just report about the games. Nothing about the debt, all-time lows for education or even the homeless.
But lo and behold! A saviour. The IOC has created an Ireland branch, known as IROC (Ireland Olympic Commitee). They reassure you that the Games will be a hit and that they'll help finance the Games, as long as they're put in charge of the majority of the preparation. You agree, naturally.
Here's where the problems begin. The First Nations community (let's pretend Ireland has a large First Nations community) is in an uproar that the Olympics are happening on Native land that's still yet to be treatied. Protests start going on. In order to try to quell the protests, IROC reassures them that there will be a large Native influence on the games, which makes people satisfied.
Eventually, the logo rolls out and it looks like this:
This eases some of the tension. IROC also insists that the mascots will have a First Nations influence as well, but when they're revealed...
Massive outroar! The mascots look like they belong in Pokemon and bear a striking resemblence to the Beijing 2008 mascots.
To make matters worse, more protests break out and you find out that you're overbudget and not even done with a quarter of the construction on the venues. The venues in the two neighbouring cities where some of the events take place are almost complete, which is really the only good news thus far. At this point you remember: The homeless population! They'd make your city look bad. So you need to deal with that too. IROC says they have a solution to both the protestors and the homeless: Increased security. All it takes is some more money, but you're overbudget as it is, so you start to cut back on different policies, including education, health care and enviromental issues.
At this point, a specific band of First Nations people are in an outrage because one of your sponsers apparantly stole the design of the Olympic sweaters from the Cowichan people, who have been making traditional sweaters since before your city was founded. To make matters worse, it turns out that they sent a letter to IROC before, volunteering to make authentic 2010 Cowichan sweaters for the Games, but IROC didn't respond to their letter and took the designs instead. Now the Games almost seem like too much trouble. And with the games just around the corner and the venues still not fully built, you know that pulling this off will be difficult. So you start asking various construction and architectual companies to complete the venues. Eventually, you find a company to undertake the task. However...
The company that'll finish the construction is Scottish. You realize that it's a contradiction, as the games are being held in Ireland, yet a Scottish company is builing the venues. More outroar and rage by the public. The venues are done, but at the cost of being massively overbudget and with a general displeasure among the populous, things look bad. IROC's solution: More security. But they also have a more... questionable suggestion. To keep anyone who's arrested from January of the new year until the end of the games in holding until March 1, when they'll start trials. You know this is a terrible idea and confront them about it. "That's preposterous! that's like self-sabotage! And what will the media say when they find this out?" In which case, the response is "They don't have to know."
*Wonders how many points his post got.*
And I admit I got mixed up. They'd put you in holding, not in jail. I forgot what it was called.
you cannot show any motive.
you cannot show any means.
and you cannot not show any proof. | |
scotiangold
Über-Meister+ 2154 points Deleted


49/F/, Canada Join Date: Nov 2009 | #56 Jan 06, 2010 @ 14:32:46 What the hell is a troll?
I have not heard anything about that on the news and since they even feel entitled to post when the janitors that will clean up after the olympics having a smoke,or other crap(as long as it says " Olympic",you would think that someone somewhere would hear that on the news.
By the way,Vancouver ain't the only Canadian city with a huge homeless problem.And what about what it costs just to try to get by with luxuries-such as food,rent...etc.These are also huge problems and I DID hear on the news that "Daffy"Harper closed Parliament until AFTER the Olympics.
That's the real retard right there.  | |
tardcore
Über-Minister+ 19717 points Deleted


33/M/Between a rock and another roc Join Date: Aug 2008 | #57 Jan 06, 2010 @ 15:32:42 scotiangold said:
What the hell is a troll?
I have not heard anything about that on the news and since they even feel entitled to post when the janitors that will clean up after the olympics having a smoke,or other crap(as long as it says " Olympic",you would think that someone somewhere would hear that on the news.
By the way,Vancouver ain't the only Canadian city with a huge homeless problem.And what about what it costs just to try to get by with luxuries-such as food,rent...etc.These are also huge problems and I DID hear on the news that "Daffy"Harper closed Parliament until AFTER the Olympics.
That's the real retard right there.
A troll is a hoaxster who posts a bunch of meaningless bull buscuits to draw people into posting emotional responses. | |
tardcore
Über-Minister+ 19717 points Deleted


33/M/Between a rock and another roc Join Date: Aug 2008 | #59 Jan 06, 2010 @ 16:30:20 scotiangold said:
Really?!That sounds kind of meaningless and stupid to me!
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jonnythan
Like a boss.
Hee Haw+ 151604 points


100/M/The north, Join Date: Aug 2005 | #60 Jan 07, 2010 @ 00:36:24 psycoskunk said:
Wow. I have lost so much respect for you. I actually thought that you contributed to the forums in a positive way, but I can see that that's not the case.
Welcome to TFS+. If you say stupid s*** and spread lies, I'll probably call you a retard.
And I'm happy to see you say you have no more respect for me. I figure that if jackasses dislike me and intelligent, reasonable people like me, I'm sure as s*** doing something right. | |
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