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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 18:06:01#76
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giggler said:

I do everything for my bf, i do the cooking the cleaning and even look after his little boy. Dont get me wrong i dont mind doing any of this but but when i dont feel as if he appriciates me it gets a little bit frustrating when he aint had to do anything but be on his pc which is totally all fun and pleasure.

Is it all men i wanna know or am i stuck with a selfish one ?



My parnter has the same complaints about me.

Alot of this stuff is common.

Have you been in many relationships?
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 18:15:00#77
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Everyone has positives and negatives. Find someone else whose negatives you can tolerate.

You are apparently with man model number XJ-00897 which usually lives most of its life alone and gets used to the habbit of putting off house chores until he gets the notion.

You sound like you're very immaculate. Stop and ask what you do like about him and if you can replace that easily.

On November 22, 2009
New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 18:24:46#78
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giggler said:

I do everything for my bf, i do the cooking the cleaning and even look after his little boy. Dont get me wrong i dont mind doing any of this but but when i dont feel as if he appriciates me it gets a little bit frustrating when he aint had to do anything but be on his pc which is totally all fun and pleasure.

Is it all men i wanna know or am i stuck with a selfish one ?



That's a tough one. I've been with men like that and have to accept 50% of the onus that I'm the one that let it get that far.

As for picking the same men over and over. That's a fallacy! After all we are not idiots that see these same qualities and say 'WOW! Another man that can treat me like trash, I think I'll go out with him'. They only show you what they want you to see until they have you hooked, lined and sunk. If you don't do everything for them from the beginning and they still expect it after being with you after you've fallen in love with them then that means they have put on a facade and once you have fallen for the facade, the mask comes off and you're with you're last partner all over again.

So! Yes we do have one thing that will keep those type of men coming right for us as a target and that's compassion, love, and the feeling that we can help when in fact we can't help them. They use those GOOD qualities and use them as a weapon to control us.

That's when we have to continue being US but not letting the people use our qualities against us. Keep them and dole them out it good portion with sensibility and that should solve the control issue down the line.

Draw the line as to what you want to do and give and stick to it and let him give the exact amount back and maybe all will be fine. Relationships are a roll of the dice to begin with, so the less ammo you give the less they have to use.

Love is not ammo, that is given freely and anyone that takes advantage of that is the one that has to take 100% blame for exploiting it for their purposes in a negative way.





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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 18:43:14#79
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Let's put it like this. If you don't feel that there's anything special about this guy worth salvaging then it's only fair for you to let him go so that he can venture out and find someone who will view him and his son as irreplacable.

I have a strong attraction to my partner for a special quality that she has that I don't believe that I'd ever be able to replace but even having said that I do have complaints that I just work around and cope with to maintain the relationship for those irreplaceable qualities she offers.

Your discarded trash might be someone else's treasure and he needs to be set free for that person.

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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 18:59:01#80
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The ironic thing is that once he does wind up with someone whom treasures him to the point where he can actually feel it, he might turn around and become a whole new person.

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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:07:52#81
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No it's not all men you have just got yourself a bad egg. I am extremely apprecitative of my girlfreind i have started to earn a lot of money recently and i buy her a lot of gifts and i spend every possible second with her making sure she is happy and loved ( she is not a gold digga i have been with her since school) and i would appreciate it if you didnt say why dont men appreciate women when its damn clear some do.




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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:11:27#82
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If or when I move in with mt bf I'm no way going to be his 'mum' cleaning and cooking for him. He is quite domesticated and a better cook than me lol so hopefully it won't happen.






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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:14:15#83
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SparklyKatie said:

If or when I move in with mt bf I'm no way going to be his 'mum' cleaning and cooking for him. He is quite domesticated and a better cook than me lol so hopefully it won't happen.



Its ok doing some of it hun but remember most relationships must be a equal heel or it dont work as one always feels asif there doing more then they should xx
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:15:18#84
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What was the state of his place before you moved it?

If his place was decent and acceptable to you when you moved in, then I'd say the problem is you. If you keeping doing everything, then he won't, it really is that simple. You have to let the place get dirty so he'll be able to see everything that you do. See, if there's someone there who cleans up everything, a person gets out of the habit of setting little mental notes for themselves : Trash is getting full, take it out, etc, because instead what happenes? They see trash is getting full, and then he gets distracted or whatever, but nothing bad happens, the trash seems to empty itself! Whereas if the next time he looked at the trash it was: Oh, Trash is *really* getting full, remember to take it out this afternoon, that would be natural reminder number two that doesn't happen when you do it for him. The brain gets out of the habit of these natural reminders and mental notes when problems seem to disappear by themselves. A person forgets that trash needs to be taken out every x number of days. It's not malicious on his part. You simply need to stop doing the things you resent doing.

Now that's not to say he can't make a decision to take some initiative, but if you run around cleaning all the time, it actually makes it harder for him to catch up to you and find something that hasn't already been done. So back off the housework a little bit and give him some opportunities to get back into the groove of things.

Now, if the state of his place was below par for you before you moved in, this problem will never go away, the two of you simply have two different standards of what's acceptable. Either you will resent him, or he will resent you, or both. You cannot expect that you can nag him into having the same standards you have, he will only come to resent you and the nagging. At that point you'll need to evaluate your priorities, is the relationship more important than how frequently he vacuums, or is this a deal breaker for you?





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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:16:27#85
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carlstss said:

No it's not all men you have just got yourself a bad egg. I am extremely apprecitative of my girlfreind i have started to earn a lot of money recently and i buy her a lot of gifts and i spend every possible second with her making sure she is happy and loved ( she is not a gold digga i have been with her since school) and i would appreciate it if you didnt say why dont men appreciate women when its damn clear some do.



Well its obvious then hun that your in a minority group cos most defo dont and just cos you do dont mean more men do aswell
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:21:05#86
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pretend you've got a bad arm worked for me i aint hoovered in ages,




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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:21:19#87
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When I moved in with my ex partner many years ago he had been living on his own for 3 years, a few days in came walking into the lounge with an arm full of washed clothes and said his ironing need doing then put it down next to me,, I asked him who did it before I was there and he said he did it himself, with that I picked up the clothes, put them back into his arms and said, I tell you what, ill plug the iron in for you then shall I? his face was a picture but he never asked again.




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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:24:08#88
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Karma_Junkie said:

When I moved in with my ex partner many years ago he had been living on his own for 3 years, a few days in came walking into the lounge with an arm full of washed clothes and said his ironing need doing then put it down next to me,, I asked him who did it before I was there and he said he did it himself, with that I picked up the clothes, put them back into his arms and said, I tell you what, ill plug the iron in for you then shall I? his face was a picture but he never asked again.



Good on ya babe i ave how ever chatted with the bf bout this and now things are slowly coming around and he does actually help out with things around the house xx
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:24:15#89
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pretend you've got a bad arm worked for me i aint hoovered in ages,








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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 19:25:05#90
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oooo me arm



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