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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 02:41:43#196
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ronyvo said:

To those who STILL are not convinced that Obama is Muslim. He lies (and that is his best telent) when he says that he is Christian.

Here it is from the mouth of the Devil:

link [www.youtube.com]



Devil? How very christian of you. NOT ONCE DID PRESIDENT OBAMA STATE HE IS MUSLIM. NOT ONCE! Stop lying. Your video attempted and failed to demonstrate that he is. He is not. If he was an admitted he was, atheist, or was a believer in Zeus - that should make absolutely no difference. This IS america. We have freedom of religion.
What you are doing is perpetuating hate. It is ugly. You are behaving very ugly.
What Obama has done- as evidence even in this cut and paste video attempting to twist his words- is beautiful and peace making. Obama DESERVES the Nobel Peace Prize for having the wisdom and guts to face anti-muslim fanatics like you in order to promote peace and lesson violence.
On November 22, 2009
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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 02:45:26#197
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ronyvo said:

warning to America from a Dutch real leader:

Part 1: link [www.youtube.com]

Part 2: link [www.youtube.com]



No different than christians spreading around the globe.
On November 22, 2009
New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 04:53:38#198
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vicki said:

He's the first USA president looking for International help to solve these world problems. He told Israel to get out of the West Bank--He extended his hand to the Mosulum world--Isn't that enough.



Kudos......I agree, give the man a chance for pete's sake!!!!



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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 04:59:07#199
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jmo said:

The Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to go to the person doing the most towards peace in the world. Just because he's the first American president to do something good doesn't make him the best or most deserving person to receive the award. There are other candidates who deserve it more.

If he manages to solve the Israel - Palestine conflict and successfully manages to have American and Muslim countries co-operating fully and well in a peaceful and respectful manor then he will deserve it, and whilst thats what he may be trying to do, he hasn't done it yet.

It seems to me he's been given the prize for his intentions rather than his actions.

How funny would it look if America invaded Iran before the 10th of December?



I would have to respectfully disagree.....he deserves it.....what's wrong with his good intentions? And why don't we all stop criticizing the man and give him a fair f***ing chance to do his job!!! GEEZ!!!



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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 05:05:13#200
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iwannano said:

Just think what the out come would have been if the Native Americans had all joined forces against the white man instead trying to continue the centuries old war with each other and fighting the whites?



That's insane.....don't you think our planet would be alot better, if no one joined forces to hate and kill in the first place? Just think what the world would be like.....if none of us had any hatred in our hearts and didn't fight for any reason? Sounds peaceful huh? Why in the world should we have to fight each other? It's INSANE!!!



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iwannano said:

Well you didn't your, ancestors made those mistakes. It is been passed down by the elders for generations that by the time it was understood that the white man just came and took with a never ending greed with never a thank you ,kiss my a** or even an idea he was taking what didn't belong to him to take ,it was to late the buffalo was gone ,the land had been fecned and ploughed .the railroad had been laid and the The People's numbers had been cut in many cases by more then half and most of that was the fighting warriors .



Yeah, but who's fault is that? Where is it proven....that it's ok to take something that's not yours to take? Why on earth would any civil person want to steal? I don't get it.......



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New Post! Nov 06, 2009 @ 06:05:28#202
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Spinkiegirl said:

Kudos......I agree, give the man a chance for pete's sake!!!!


At this point in time I have to wonder how long a chance we're supposed to give him? I understood January and February when he probably hadn't even unpacked yet. I could even kind of see June and July, although that was stretching it a little. But now, nearly 1 year into his Presidency? That's 1/4 to 1/8 of his reign (depending on if he gets 1 or 2 terms). Does his chance extend until he's no longer in office? Just how much free time does he get?
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:26:33#203
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crazylikeafox said:

At this point in time I have to wonder how long a chance we're supposed to give him? I understood January and February when he probably hadn't even unpacked yet. I could even kind of see June and July, although that was stretching it a little. But now, nearly 1 year into his Presidency? That's 1/4 to 1/8 of his reign (depending on if he gets 1 or 2 terms). Does his chance extend until he's no longer in office? Just how much free time does he get?

Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with.
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:37:53#204
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shinobinoz said:

Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with.


Well that doesn't really address my question, but it seems like you're praising Obama. If that's the case, then enough time has obviously passed to legitimately criticize him as well. I'm not really interested in doing either, but it's getting more and more ridiculous to claim he hasn't ruled long enough to make such judgements.
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Spinkiegirl said:

That's insane.....don't you think our planet would be alot better, if no one joined forces to hate and kill in the first place? Just think what the world would be like.....if none of us had any hatred in our hearts and didn't fight for any reason? Sounds peaceful huh? Why in the world should we have to fight each other? It's INSANE!!!


You do understand that what I was saying about 'if all the nations ' had joined together , would have taken place more than a couple of hundred years ago and by 'all the nations' I mean all the different Native American nations , don't you ?
Spinkiegirl said:

Yeah, but who's fault is that? Where is it proven....that it's ok to take something that's not yours to take? Why on earth would any civil person want to steal? I don't get it.......



Same time frame applies for the post you quoted with this reply .



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New Post! Nov 08, 2009 @ 06:53:13#206
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crazylikeafox said:

At this point in time I have to wonder how long a chance we're supposed to give him? I understood January and February when he probably hadn't even unpacked yet. I could even kind of see June and July, although that was stretching it a little. But now, nearly 1 year into his Presidency? That's 1/4 to 1/8 of his reign (depending on if he gets 1 or 2 terms). Does his chance extend until he's no longer in office? Just how much free time does he get?



Well....I can't really say how much time he should get.....I don't believe that would be fair.....if you take in to consideration, what he had to work with when he got in.....and let's not forget, he's young, it took 43 past presidents to make what this country is today....and not one of them accomplished anything great over night.....let's give him at least the same as we gave the others......that's fair!!! If you or anyone else thinks you can do a better job than Obama.....then I say..."Go take his job away from him....and do it yourself." We didn't get in this mess over night you know!!!



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shinobinoz said:

Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with.



You are right.....what I don't understand.....is why those who blame him for the state our country is in.....don't go and get themselves elected president and do a better job? If you don't like what the man is doing....and he's not doing it fast enough....then go do it yourself....stop complaining already!!! We didn't get in this mess over night......and Obama had NOTHING to do with the way things are today!!!



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iwannano said:

You do understand that what I was saying about 'if all the nations ' had joined together , would have taken place more than a couple of hundred years ago and by 'all the nations' I mean all the different Native American nations , don't you ?



Same time frame applies for the post you quoted with this reply .



I'am saying.....if we didn't have those evil people to begin with...we wouldn't be talking about this right now.....let me ask you something...have you ever wanted something so bad, that you were willing to take it from someone? Take it...even though it WASN'T yours to take? Have you ever wanted something someone else had, so bad that you were willing to do anything to get it...even kill? I haven't!! You don't seem to be that kind of person IMO!!



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Spinkiegirl said:

You are right.....what I don't understand.....is why those who blame him for the state our country is in.....don't go and get themselves elected president and do a better job? If you don't like what the man is doing....and he's not doing it fast enough....then go do it yourself....stop complaining already!!!



YEAH! Thats why instead of complaining about Bush, you went out and became president.



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New Post! Nov 08, 2009 @ 07:29:36#210
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Spinkiegirl said:

Well....I can't really say how much time he should get.....I don't believe that would be fair.....if you take in to consideration, what he had to work with when he got in.....and let's not forget, he's young, it took 43 past presidents to make what this country is today....and not one of them accomplished anything great over night.....let's give him at least the same as we gave the others......that's fair!!! If you or anyone else thinks you can do a better job than Obama.....then I say..."Go take his job away from him....and do it yourself." We didn't get in this mess over night you know!!!



OK, they usually give Presidents 100 days leniency. It's been far past that point, so I think it's all fair game regardless if "it" is praised or denounced.
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