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Forum Index > News & Politics | >> Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | ronyvo said:
To those who STILL are not convinced that Obama is Muslim. He lies (and that is his best telent) when he says that he is Christian.
Here it is from the mouth of the Devil:
link [www.youtube.com]
Devil? How very christian of you. NOT ONCE DID PRESIDENT OBAMA STATE HE IS MUSLIM. NOT ONCE! Stop lying. Your video attempted and failed to demonstrate that he is. He is not. If he was an admitted he was, atheist, or was a believer in Zeus - that should make absolutely no difference. This IS america. We have freedom of religion.
What you are doing is perpetuating hate. It is ugly. You are behaving very ugly.
What Obama has done- as evidence even in this cut and paste video attempting to twist his words- is beautiful and peace making. Obama DESERVES the Nobel Peace Prize for having the wisdom and guts to face anti-muslim fanatics like you in order to promote peace and lesson violence. | | | Edited: November 06, 2009 @ 02:42 | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | ronyvo said:
warning to America from a Dutch real leader:
Part 1: link [www.youtube.com]
Part 2: link [www.youtube.com]
No different than christians spreading around the globe. | | |
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Spinkiegirl
Minister 14753 points


47/F/Chicago, Illinois Join Date: Jun 2008 | jmo said:
The Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to go to the person doing the most towards peace in the world. Just because he's the first American president to do something good doesn't make him the best or most deserving person to receive the award. There are other candidates who deserve it more.
If he manages to solve the Israel - Palestine conflict and successfully manages to have American and Muslim countries co-operating fully and well in a peaceful and respectful manor then he will deserve it, and whilst thats what he may be trying to do, he hasn't done it yet.
It seems to me he's been given the prize for his intentions rather than his actions.
How funny would it look if America invaded Iran before the 10th of December?
I would have to respectfully disagree.....he deserves it.....what's wrong with his good intentions?  And why don't we all stop criticizing the man and give him a fair f***ing chance to do his job!!! GEEZ!!!

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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | Spinkiegirl said:
Kudos......I agree, give the man a chance for pete's sake!!!!
At this point in time I have to wonder how long a chance we're supposed to give him? I understood January and February when he probably hadn't even unpacked yet. I could even kind of see June and July, although that was stretching it a little. But now, nearly 1 year into his Presidency? That's 1/4 to 1/8 of his reign (depending on if he gets 1 or 2 terms). Does his chance extend until he's no longer in office? Just how much free time does he get? | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | crazylikeafox said:
At this point in time I have to wonder how long a chance we're supposed to give him? I understood January and February when he probably hadn't even unpacked yet. I could even kind of see June and July, although that was stretching it a little. But now, nearly 1 year into his Presidency? That's 1/4 to 1/8 of his reign (depending on if he gets 1 or 2 terms). Does his chance extend until he's no longer in office? Just how much free time does he get?
Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with. | | |
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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | shinobinoz said:
Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with.
Well that doesn't really address my question, but it seems like you're praising Obama. If that's the case, then enough time has obviously passed to legitimately criticize him as well. I'm not really interested in doing either, but it's getting more and more ridiculous to claim he hasn't ruled long enough to make such judgements. | | |
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iwannano
TFS Monkey+ 40039 points


49/F/Mountainair area, New Mexico Join Date: Mar 2008 | Spinkiegirl said:
That's insane.....don't you think our planet would be alot better, if no one joined forces to hate and kill in the first place? Just think what the world would be like.....if none of us had any hatred in our hearts and didn't fight for any reason? Sounds peaceful huh? Why in the world should we have to fight each other? It's INSANE!!!
You do understand that what I was saying about 'if all the nations ' had joined together , would have taken place more than a couple of hundred years ago and by 'all the nations' I mean all the different Native American nations , don't you ?
Spinkiegirl said:
Yeah, but who's fault is that? Where is it proven....that it's ok to take something that's not yours to take? Why on earth would any civil person want to steal? I don't get it.......
Same time frame applies for the post you quoted with this reply .
 Won't work/Ta-Ta!!
Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they?
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Spinkiegirl
Minister 14753 points


47/F/Chicago, Illinois Join Date: Jun 2008 | shinobinoz said:
Well let's see. The unemployment lags behind the recovery by months to a year or so, we have just had the best growth in the past 6 years, indicators are pointing towards recovery. Remember- it was only LATE last year before Bush admitted we were in a depression- not to mention on the verge of a total economic meltdown. I think Obama is doing a pretty darn good job- given what condition everything was that he was left with.
You are right.....what I don't understand.....is why those who blame him for the state our country is in.....don't go and get themselves elected president and do a better job? If you don't like what the man is doing....and he's not doing it fast enough....then go do it yourself....stop complaining already!!!  We didn't get in this mess over night......and Obama had NOTHING to do with the way things are today!!!

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crazylikeafox
Debater 6650 points


25/M/Arvada, Colorado Join Date: Nov 2008 | Spinkiegirl said:
Well....I can't really say how much time he should get.....I don't believe that would be fair.....if you take in to consideration, what he had to work with when he got in.....and let's not forget, he's young, it took 43 past presidents to make what this country is today....and not one of them accomplished anything great over night.....let's give him at least the same as we gave the others......that's fair!!! If you or anyone else thinks you can do a better job than Obama.....then I say..."Go take his job away from him....and do it yourself." We didn't get in this mess over night you know!!!
OK, they usually give Presidents 100 days leniency. It's been far past that point, so I think it's all fair game regardless if "it" is praised or denounced. | | |
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