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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:02:10#61
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chisa96 said:

but what i am trying to say is that you wouldn't really know if you had racist instincts... you were taught not to be racist since before you had a functional memory, so you have no way of knowing what you would be like if you had been taught differently, or what your instincts would tell you if you had never been taught anything... your instincts were overridden by your upbringing long before you were even able to comprehend the concepts...

the same is pretty much true of anyone, unless they live cut off from the world with no other races around them...

so therefore, no- it's not something i could really prove; there must be studies, but i don't see how they could be run without having distinct flaws in them, not while abiding by today's ethics laws...

so we wouldn't conclusively know whether our instincts are for racism or not, but to me thinking anthropologically-- it makes sense that we would have lingering tendencies to be wary of those different from us... and unless we were taught otherwise, nature would tell us that different = a threat...



I think you caught on and inadvertently made our point. You said unless you lived cut off away from the world. Well that was the case up until humans started getting back together after the seperations that created our melatonin differences - so NO instinct plays very little part in this- it is mostly learned behavior.
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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:04:13#62
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aquine said:

Well it is quite obvious. If pineapples are blue then the rain must be a zebra. But if the zebra yawns then knuckles turn.

Please re-read my initail post. Verily, I tell thou, it is not so difficult to understand.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:08:06#63
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aquine said:

Oh dear. We can't live in peace because of sin.

Christ is the only one who came to take sin away.

The mumbo jumbo is me taking the mickey. Sorry about that. Hope you can forgive me.


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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:11:04#64
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jr_sanford said:

I can see why the news media adds race to their descriptions. It's the most obvious aspect of the Human appearance. Now what I wonder is, are they (the news media) reporting ALL the news equally, OR, are they focusing on certain races (racial profiling) of perpetrators???

What really gets my goat is gentrification. It happens more than you know.

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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:27:26#65
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shinobinoz said:

I think you caught on and inadvertently made our point. You said unless you lived cut off away from the world. Well that was the case up until humans started getting back together after the seperations that created our melatonin differences - so NO instinct plays very little part in this- it is mostly learned behavior.



lol... i didn't really make your point... if you lived cut off from the world your instincts would probably tell you to be wary of those different from your little circle... just as the tribes and groups of the ancient world were generally wary when they came across each other... people have a certain sense of danger when they come across a new type of person, or any situation really, that is foreign to them... we are wired to approach the new and strange with caution...

but as you pointed out, people these days have begun to come and mold together... we are born into a world where all the different groups are coming together; we are born into a world where we are exposed to many different types and races of people every day... the instinct plays no role anymore because before we can even think about it we learn not to be afraid of people from another race...



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New Post! Nov 07, 2009 @ 06:31:03#66
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chisa96 said:

lol... i didn't really make your point... if you lived cut off from the world your instincts would probably tell you to be wary of those different from your little circle... just as the tribes and groups of the ancient world were generally wary when they came across each other... people have a certain sense of danger when they come across a new type of person, or any situation really, that is foreign to them... we are wired to approach the new and strange with caution...

but as you pointed out, people these days have begun to come and mold together... we are born into a world where all the different groups are coming together; we are born into a world where we are exposed to many different types and races of people every day... the instinct plays no role anymore because before we can even think about it we learn not to be afraid of people from another race...


I don't think you are using the word instinct in the proper manner here. Instinct means that the child would be born with that trait. Children are not born to fear other peoples no matter how tall or short, fat or skinny, light or dark skin. The baby will suckle any teat that is offered to it.
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shinobinoz said:

I don't think you are using the word instinct in the proper manner here. Instinct means that the child would be born with that trait. Children are not born to fear other peoples no matter how tall or short, fat or skinny, light or dark skin. The baby will suckle any teat that is offered to it.



i feel my usage is fine... we instinctually fear the new and unknown... something foreign to us makes us uncomfortable... be that people, situations, sensations, whatever... new things require some getting used to... it's a human instinct, and for solid reasons... we may not fear people at birth, but that's because we don't have the capacity to think about the danger other people could pose-- a baby is more concerned with sounds, smells-- their fears are based solely on different sensory experiences...

and with the world being so much more integrated today, babies are used to coming across different types/races of people... so they learned through experience not to worry about them before they were even aware of that learning...

anybody else have some thoughts on this? is it really not making sense?



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