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Forum Index > News & Politics | >> Senate to debate Homosexual Hate-crime Bill | | |
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aquine
Mega Über-Meister 4845 points


31/M/Alice SPrings, Australia Join Date: Aug 2009 | Kristy69 said:
I don't know what the laws are in Pleasantville, Australia, but here was have a little something called "Separation of Church and State". Too bad, so sad, your religious philosophy doesn't mean s*** right now.

Have a fan-f***ing-tastic day.
I find it unfortunate to have to spell these things out, as it is always better when people consider the writings of others.
However, on this occasion I make an acception.
The Edict of Constantine was when The State took control of The Church, since that time those acting in the name of Christ have corrupted and distorted the message and the ideal.
Plebs follow politicians.
God bless you. | | |
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Kristy69
Roseblood red
Monk+ 34500 points


16/F/Underneath the Cyanide Sun..., Join Date: Feb 2009 | aquine said:
I find it unfortunate to have to spell these things out, as it is always better when people consider the writings of others.
However, on this occasion I make an acception.
The Edict of Constantine was when The State took control of The Church, since that time those acting in the name of Christ have corrupted and distorted the message and the ideal.
Plebs follow politicians.
God bless you.
 You are honestly talking about 313 A.D. Constantine?
If you haven't notices, times having changed juuuust a little bit.
Even so, you are still speaking in a pious bias. And again, if you haven't noticed, the American government (pretty much most democratic governments) does not run it's laws upon piety.
You can b**** about how the separation itself is a sin of God, but PLEASE for the love of s*** if your going to talk politics, get with the times, set religion aside and talk about the facts.
Or because it's homosexual marriage you CAN'T find another reason besides sin that it shouldn't be legal?

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not4sale
Minister 11327 points Banned


21/M/Melbourne, Australia Join Date: Nov 2007 | Hazuki0chan said:
So gays are committing a crime just for being themselves? Is that it?
I have to tell you what crimes they're being prosecuted for?
Oh no, my friend. It's the other way around.
You're saying they are being prosecuted, so please, let me know what crimes they are being prosecuted for.
Alternatively, reread what I've written so far and see if you can understand what I'm really saying to you. | | |
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Hazuki0chan
Eccentric Weirdo
Minister+ 11695 points


20/F/San Fran, California Join Date: Oct 2008 | not4sale said:
I have to tell you what crimes they're being prosecuted for?
Oh no, my friend. It's the other way around.
You're saying they are being prosecuted, so please, let me know what crimes they are being prosecuted for.
Alternatively, reread what I've written so far and see if you can understand what I'm really saying to you.
I didn't think you'd have to be a genius to take the word "persecution" into different situations, not just criminal persecution.
Persecution: The act of persecuting; A program or campaign to subjugate or eliminate a specific group of people, often based on race, religion, sexuality, or social beliefs.
is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. The most common forms are sexual persecution i.e.; persecution of women, religious persecution, ethnic persecution, and political persecution.
I never said they're being being persecuted for crimes that they supposedly committed. Read between the lines.
Oh, and I said PERsecuted, not PROsecuted. 

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not4sale
Minister 11327 points Banned


21/M/Melbourne, Australia Join Date: Nov 2007 | Hazuki0chan said:
I can't believe that you would even imagine the entire world population turning gay. That's preposterous!
Gays have always been a minority and, as far as I can see, it will remain that way because they keep getting prosecuted on the daily basis.
Hazuki0chan said:
I didn't think you'd have to be a genius to take the word "persecution" into different situations, not just criminal persecution.
Persecution: The act of persecuting; A program or campaign to subjugate or eliminate a specific group of people, often based on race, religion, sexuality, or social beliefs.
is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. The most common forms are sexual persecution i.e.; persecution of women, religious persecution, ethnic persecution, and political persecution.
I never said they're being being persecuted for crimes that they supposedly committed. Read between the lines.
Oh, and I said PERsecuted, not PROsecuted.
Hazuki0chan said:
I can't believe that you would even imagine the entire world population turning gay. That's preposterous!
Gays have always been a minority and, as far as I can see, it will remain that way because they keep getting prosecuted on the daily basis.
Could you at least edit your posts before lying about what you've said in them? | | |
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Hazuki0chan
Eccentric Weirdo
Minister+ 11695 points


20/F/San Fran, California Join Date: Oct 2008 | not4sale said:
Could you at least edit your posts before lying about what you've said in them?
I didn't lie, or at least I didn't mean to. I meant to say persecuted, but I made a mistake. That's my bad. Spelling goes a long way, huh?
I made an a** out of myself. Oops
Sorry for all that, then. Forget it happened.

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sugarflyguy
Aye-curumba
Ogler+ 24977 points


39/M/Somewhere in the UK, United Ki Join Date: Sep 2008 | Charles said:
My God is a god who teaches us to love one another, not to judge one another and to keep his commandments.
Is the 11th commandment thou shalt not be Gay?
I don't think so. Don't start quoting that old testament book of hate and violence to justify your opinion.
Peace brother.
Mmmm, I see you didn't read past Exodus 

Now with better color management profile
1 Corinthians 13
Hello, farewell to your love and soul
Hello, farewell to your SOOOOOOUUUUULLLLLL!!!! - Peter Hook 1987 Brixton Academy | | |
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chief_big
Über-Meister 1750 points


21/NA/haggisville, United Kingdom Join Date: Mar 2009 | tardcore said:
Ever heard of IVF?
yes but i doubt cavemen had this capability, thats my point natures way of insuring the survival of the species is to make the idea of homosexuality seem wrong too people like some animals born in africa are usually born with a natural fear of lions and even if it isnt punishing others ignorance is wrong | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | chief_big said:
because some people actually believe what they are doing is right, for example if enough people were infact gay we would die out as a species so perhaps its only a natural sub-concious thing for some people to want to try and discourage others from doing it and not hatred
This makes no sense.
Slavery: OK because "because some people actually believe what they are doing is right"
Genocide: OK because "because some people actually believe what they are doing is right"
Does not work.
It IS a hate crime. | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | Ellen said:
Hate crime laws are stupid. If you attack somebody and it wasn't self defense then you should get the same sentence regardless of what your motivations were.
Not really. The attack of the individual is one thing. The attack of an individual because they belong to a group is the slippery slope to ethnic cleansing and genocide. | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | diomedes said:
Aren't all crimes committed with malicious intent hate crimes?
I don't know I just don't believe in hate crimes I guess, I mean how could me killing a black guy I hate be any worse than my killing a white guys I hate?
Here it is simply put.
There is a BIG difference between "me killing a black guy I hate be any worse than my killing a white guys I hate?" and "Me killing blacks because they are black or whites because they are white, or gays because...."
Get the picture? | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | aquine said:
Because being a woman or being black isn't sinful. Choosing to partake in homosexual behaviour is sinful.
God directs judges to have those who choose to partake in homosexual behaviour, and are not remorseful for their crime, to be put to death for their detestable acts.
God has also supplied the Atonement for redemption, in order to raise the dead to eternal life.
That is why I say those who preach about karma should come to understand the reality of it.
He'll "come back as fire, burn all the liars, and leave a blanket of ash on the ground" - KC.
God bless you.
What makes your myth carry any more higher moral standard than mine? | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | aquine said:
They don't ever get prosecuted in the west anymore.
In the west, jamming your brothers is considered to be acceptable behaviour.
Any man who looks on homosexual behaviour as acceptable is taking part in the crucifixion of the ideal man - a man free of sin. This is done due to a lack of self-awareness and a lack of righteousness.
God bless you.
Again, with the religion you want to run my life with. Your religion has no more moral superiority than mine does.
Gitchimanidoo bless you. | | |
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shinobinoz
Über Master Debater 7526 points


50/M/Wichita, Kansas Join Date: Oct 2008 | aquine said:
All sin has a negative impact.
Christ came to take sin away.
Isaiah 55:10,11
As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
It will not return to me empty,
but will accomplish what I desire
and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.
Peace be within you.
Ya know what? Proselytizing is a sin!
Gakiina Awiiya! | | |
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